15 replies to this topic

[Koolance]

Will something like this be implemented? I just want external views like those found in flight sims so that I can admire my mech. I'm not asking for a 3rd person view to use in combat here. Just wondering...

[Steel Prophet]

This has been answered like 10 times before. No external camera planned.

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[RedDragon]

Well, he explicitly didn't ask about 3rd person view, which will not be implemented. But for the moment, external views are also not in the game. I guess that will depend on whether there will be a recording function for matches. If so, there might as well be an external view. But ingame during matches? I highly doubt that there will be any external views (because that would exactly be what is called 3rd person view), except maybe if we get the ability to launch drones or other external devices to view the battlefield.

[Sir Hunter]

While the topic is a little perenial I think that the notion of an external view to admire your mech out of combat is a good one.

[Strum Wealh]

Koolance, on 22 July 2012 - 04:17 AM, said:

Will something like this be implemented? I just want external views like those found in flight sims so that I can admire my mech. I'm not asking for a 3rd person view to use in combat here. Just wondering...

The issue with this is that one could rotate it behind and above their 'Mech and zoom it out a bit, and then they would have the very third-person POV - with nearly all of the attendant gameplay issues - that the Devs are making a point of not implementing.

In fact, with user-controlled zoom and user-adjustable angles, it's arguably more likely to be used/abused for the advantages such a thing would provide than a traditional, generally-fixed third-person POV.

[Koolance]

Strum Wealh, on 22 July 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

The issue with this is that one could rotate it behind and above their 'Mech and zoom it out a bit, and then they would have the very third-person POV - with nearly all of the attendant gameplay issues - that the Devs are making a point of not implementing.

In fact, with user-controlled zoom and user-adjustable angles, it's arguably more likely to be used/abused for the advantages such a thing would provide than a traditional, generally-fixed third-person POV.

But if probably done this won't be a problem. Once in external view the keys/buttons/mouse axis/joystick POV used for aiming, turning and other mech functions will be used to control the camera instead, and there's no HUD to help you aim, so you can't fight effectively if at all while in external view.

Steel Prophet, on 22 July 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

This has been answered like 10 times before. No external camera planned.

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Actually I did search, and all I got is people complaining about the game switching to external camera when they fall/die or something, and a few people asking about 3rd person view.

Edited by Koolance, 22 July 2012 - 08:33 PM.

[light487]

Koolance, on 22 July 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

But if probably done this won't be a problem. Once in external view the keys/buttons/mouse axis/joystick POV used for aiming, turning and other mech functions will be used to control the camera instead, and there's no HUD to help you aim, so you can't fight effectively if at all while in external view.

So you're talking about having an external camera DURING COMBAT. You're not talking about after battle stuff.. you're still talking about an external camera while the combat is ongoing.

In that case, the simple answer is: No.

They are looking into having post-battle replays.. but this isn't in the game yet.

As for external views during combat (which is 3rd person, no matter what you want to call it), they (the devs) don't want this at all.

Please see below link:
http://mwomercs.com/...is-when-needed/

Edited by light487, 22 July 2012 - 09:10 PM.

[Xathanael]

Not gonna happen

Mechwarrior not Mechassault

[Xune]

10 times answered and NO

[Z0MBIE Y0SHI]

A lot of people are misinterpreting the question here...

[Blue Footed Booby]

Z0MBIE Y0SHI, on 24 July 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

A lot of people are misinterpreting the question here...

Yeah, probably, I get the feeling some people are replying to the thread title, but they're still right, even if by accident. Even if the 3rd person view disables controls it still gives you a wider field of view, which can let you peek around cover without exposing your mech. It'd almost certainly have a gameplay impact regardless of how they implement it, and even if they did something clever like fuzz out everything that isn't your mech with exaggerated depth of field they'd still be spending development manhours working on a purely cosmetic feature that most people won't care about that serves literally no gameplay purpose.

[Cymrich]

It would be simple to implement in a way that provides no tactical advantage. Just make it switch to that view if no input has been given for 30 seconds after the mech has been totally shut down. After 30 seconds with no input and the mech shut down, the camera could rotate slowly (10 ft away, 10 ft up). If any control input is given the timer is shut off and the camera resumes the normal player perspective and cannot be resumed until the mech is first powered back on then powered off again, and another 30 seconds of inactivity from the input controls has gone by. I implemented something similiar in a previous life as a game dev. It was a cheap screen saver.

[Ralgas]

I believe there was something in atd 38 about ui 2.0 and the mechbay, but i cant remem if it was "sure then" or "we'll look into it"

[9erRed]

Greetings all,

The Dev.'s have stated that an outside "free roaming" view is going to be available at some point. This may be usable for "Match events" by referees or commentators.

It was also discussed as a means to observe the "taped" battle after the match, similar to what flight sims do. League match's of MW:LL were often shown on you-tube from a free floating camera perspective. Some restrictions would need to be implemented to dissuade voice Comms to either team. Or as stated before have it only available as a "replay" device.

Note here: In the canon story line, the beagle active probe had a recording device in it to capture all the battles, for later replay by the pilots or commanders.

Later,
9erRed

[Aurrous]

Koolance, on 22 July 2012 - 04:17 AM, said:

Will something like this be implemented? I just want external views like those found in flight sims so that I can admire my mech. I'm not asking for a 3rd person view to use in combat here. Just wondering...

If they wants to admire their mech, they can do it in the mech bay where you add camo currently by dragging the mech and moving it side to side.. This is limited to side to side movement X axis.. Im guessing for purposes of admiring a mech the devs could add a Y and Z axis to the rotation in the mech bay.. This would be non-combat, and per the ops request..

Edited by Aurrous, 22 May 2013 - 05:05 AM.

[Steelgrave]

Steel Prophet, on 22 July 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

This has been answered like 10 times before. No external camera planned.

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And here we are a year later.