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[Gyrok]

Khalcruth, on 03 June 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

Sure, here's a bit of math for you - it's 54 SRM's in a volley. I'm afraid I don't see how IS having streaks makes clan SRMs magically bounce off like rubber balls.

This is the same tonnage as a cicada was his point. Do you seriously think you could 9 SRM6s on a Cicada? (A 40 ton mech)

Just in case you were thinking about trying to be ridiculous...

This is a 40 ton ASN with 4 ASRM6s: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6018748b174410a

No way you can get 9 of those on anything with an engine in it.

[Kangarad]

Gyrok, on 03 June 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

This is the same tonnage as a cicada was his point. Do you seriously think you could 9 SRM6s on a Cicada? (A 40 ton mech)

Just in case you were thinking about trying to be ridiculous...

This is a 40 ton ASN with 4 ASRM6s: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6018748b174410a

No way you can get 9 of those on anything with an engine in it.

clan mech. you can bring 8 with the same tonnage in ammo... if you strip 1,5 tons of whatever you can bring 9.
not sure if you have that with endo and ferro tho duno if the acw has it.

[MischiefSC]

It's got 19 tons of pod space.

That's 9 srm6 and 5.5 tons of ammo.

Because I know you try to ignore this but Clan weapons are lighter and smaller. This is especially critical on lights and mediums.

[Pariah Devalis]

Kangarad, on 03 June 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

clan mech. you can bring 8 with the same tonnage in ammo... if you strip 1,5 tons of whatever you can bring 9.
not sure if you have that with endo and ferro tho duno if the acw has it.

MischiefSC, on 03 June 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

It's got 19 tons of pod space.

That's 9 srm6 and 5.5 tons of ammo.

Because I know you try to ignore this but Clan weapons are lighter and smaller. This is especially critical on lights and mediums.

That is also both not enough ammunition, nor heat efficient enough. Only someone in it for the lulz would do that. 8x ASRM4 huntsman runs hot as hell with 14 DHS, and 8xSRM6 on an ACW would have a higher heat generation. Plus, the 9 SRM6 and 5.5 tons of ammo is overlooking the stock ACW being lowish in armor, and ignores the potential to make the engine faster. Realistically, the 9m ACW is going to "only" use 8 of them, and if it will use all 9, expect several to be SRM2.

But, ah... Let's just stay myopic on the 9 missile hardpoints issue. And not ask about the practicality of it all. Because life is only worth living if you find new reasons to froth at the mouth in rage.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 03 June 2017 - 04:53 PM.

[Unendingmenace]

Mad Cat MKII and Nova Cat in the same year?

Navid A1, on 02 June 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

DAMN SON.

Night Star and Nova Cat?



"Have mercy..." - my wallet

[Y E O N N E]

Khalcruth, on 03 June 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

Sure, here's a bit of math for you - it's 54 SRM's in a volley. I'm afraid I don't see how IS having streaks makes clan SRMs magically bounce off like rubber balls.

It removes the SRMs from the equation entirely when it removes the arms from the 'Mech. And you didn't even have to aim, fancy that!

54 SRMs is not a threat. Way, way too hot. At most, you might see that in a comp game in the same role the old Jenner IIC was used, but not as a normal build. The normal build is probably going to be entirely made up of SRM2.

[Kangarad]

Pariah Devalis, on 03 June 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

That is also both not enough ammunition, nor heat efficient enough. Only someone in it for the lulz would do that. 8x ASRM4 huntsman runs hot as hell with 14 DHS, and 8xSRM6 on an ACW would have a higher heat generation. Plus, the 9 SRM6 and 5.5 tons of ammo is overlooking the stock ACW being lowish in armor, and ignores the potential to make the engine faster. Realistically, the 9m ACW is going to "only" use 8 of them, and if it will use all 9, expect several to be SRM2.

But, ah... Let's just stay myopic on the 9 missile hardpoints issue. And not ask about the practicality of it all. Because life is only worth living if you find new reasons to froth at the mouth in rage.

yea, Ill just mount the lowest possible engine/heatsinks some armour and the largest ammount of big launchers realy. aslong as you dont go less than 30 youll be fine.

[Gyrok]

MischiefSC, on 03 June 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

It's got 19 tons of pod space.

That's 9 srm6 and 5.5 tons of ammo.

Because I know you try to ignore this but Clan weapons are lighter and smaller. This is especially critical on lights and mediums.

Too bad the battlemech is the only one that can bring 9 missile tubes.

That mech comes with XL280 stock...which is about 15 tons of weapon space. You *could* run the battlemech much slower and do it...but why would you when you could run 5xASRM6 and go fast?

[Electroflameageddon]

TheArisen, on 03 June 2017 - 02:37 AM, said:

Don't lie to yourself, they're amazing. The Nightstar's special camo is even based on Van Gogh's "The Starry Night"

I want this mech only for the paint job.

"Starry Night" is an awesome work of art and putting it on a mech is genius.

Waiting patiently for payday....

[Y E O N N E]

I swear to Kerensky, all of you are underestimating the power of SRM2 with all these SRM4/6 suggestions.

Go out there, throw 5x cSRM2 and 5x cERML/cSPL onto your Linebackers, and go ham. The DPS is real. The inability for the enemy to retaliate without getting his soft bits pounded is also real.

[Pariah Devalis]

Yeonne Greene, on 03 June 2017 - 05:13 PM, said:

I swear to Kerensky, all of you are underestimating the power of SRM2 with all these SRM4/6 suggestions.

Go out there, throw 5x cSRM2 and 5x cERML/cSPL onto your Linebackers, and go ham. The DPS is real. The inability for the enemy to retaliate without getting his soft bits pounded is also real.

Also almost totally sidesteps the horrible spread C-SRM innately have.

[Y E O N N E]

Pariah Devalis, on 03 June 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Also almost totally sidesteps the horrible spread C-SRM innately have.

I know. :-3

[MischiefSC]

Pariah Devalis, on 03 June 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

That is also both not enough ammunition, nor heat efficient enough. Only someone in it for the lulz would do that. 8x ASRM4 huntsman runs hot as hell with 14 DHS, and 8xSRM6 on an ACW would have a higher heat generation. Plus, the 9 SRM6 and 5.5 tons of ammo is overlooking the stock ACW being lowish in armor, and ignores the potential to make the engine faster. Realistically, the 9m ACW is going to "only" use 8 of them, and if it will use all 9, expect several to be SRM2.

But, ah... Let's just stay myopic on the 9 missile hardpoints issue. And not ask about the practicality of it all. Because life is only worth living if you find new reasons to froth at the mouth in rage.

Actually I'll run 8 on it for hit and run. Cuz 96 pts out of a 40 tonner, even if it's just one alpha before you've got to cool down, is insane. How many alphas does a 5 6mpl cicada get before heatcap? 3?

So, the cicada gets out 90 pts over like 8 seconds at the same range give or take based on skills. This bad boy will puke more than that up over 0.5 seconds.

[TheArisen]

MischiefSC, on 03 June 2017 - 05:42 PM, said:

Actually I'll run 8 on it for hit and run. Cuz 96 pts out of a 40 tonner, even if it's just one alpha before you've got to cool down, is insane. How many alphas does a 5 6mpl cicada get before heatcap? 3?

So, the cicada gets out 90 pts over like 8 seconds at the same range give or take based on skills. This bad boy will puke more than that up over 0.5 seconds.

Fair enough. You'll also generally have the speed to stay away & cool down or only fire half of your missiles.

[Mystere]

El Bandito, on 02 June 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Just how dumb are you? Victor and Highlander meta was back in 2013--BEFORE Clan mechs were introduced to MWO. Catapults were even further back. All the mechs you have listed were at their most powerful back in 2012-2015 at the latest, back when there were less competition. That's 2 years gap.

The King is dead! Long live the new King!

I think that just about says it all.


Also, this forum makes me laugh. And so this one's for you:

chucklesMuch, on 03 June 2017 - 12:54 AM, said:

Oh bloody hell too many mechs that I want!

Please give me reasons why the amazing looking escalation mechs are actually rubbish and I shouldn't want to buy them... the nightstar and Osiris especially...

I will not give you any reason whatsoever. Instead I'll just laugh here in this corner. <maniacal >

Bud Crue, on 03 June 2017 - 03:44 AM, said:

PGI I may mock you for a lot of dumb things that you do ...

Truth be told, PGI is not the only one in a mocking mood.

Edited by Mystere, 03 June 2017 - 11:24 PM.

[Fyrwulf]

*looks at 9S Nightstar*

"Hey, kid, you ever seen a light mech fly?"
"I guess, if you mean lights with jumpjets."
"No, I mean without jumpjets."
"No..."
"Watch this!"
*alphas twin HGRs, Arctic Cheetah goes flying*