33 replies to this topic

[ArmageddonKnight]

Greetings.

Any1 know how to fix/stop the terrain poping thats present in the game ?

I've finaly had enough dealing with it, so many of my rounds hit thin air from my perspective, its more a problem now due to the heavy use of peaking tactics being used by mechs with high hardpoint locations.

So, any fix ?

[Antares102]

Lol no!
What do you expect? You want to nerf mechs with high mounts even further?
High mount weapons were always the choice to go and the mechs
with high mounts have been nerfed many time e.g. Stalker, Battlemaster, Kodiak.

Git gut thats you have to do not cry for nerfs of the mechs that kill you.

Edited by Antares102, 03 June 2017 - 12:36 PM.

[ArmageddonKnight]

WTF r u on ?

And wtf r u talking about ..that has nothign to do with what im asking.

if u dont understand what terrain poping is ..dont post ..u look like an idiot doign so.

[Antares102]

ArmageddonKnight, on 03 June 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

WTF r u on ?

And wtf r u talking about ..that has nothign to do with what im asking.

if u dont understand what terrain poping is ..dont post ..u look like an idiot doign so.

Hm ok probably I got I wrong. But whats you problem then?
That your shots go over the enemy mech when its poking? That you hit the terrain instead of the mech?
This would be a terran/hit-reg issue?

Edited by Antares102, 03 June 2017 - 12:42 PM.

[Humpday]

You talking about invisible walls? I've seen that occur, where you see the round clearly, clear, the terrain, but get stopped by some invisible block. Strange.

[ArmageddonKnight]

Humpday, on 03 June 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

You talking about invisible walls? I've seen that occur, where you see the round clearly, clear, the terrain, but get stopped by some invisible block. Strange.

This.

However i called it what is is .. Terrain popping .. much like Texture popping.

Since i was asking for a fix , those who have a fix would know what i meant


Look through your zoom at the top of a incline (hill), then walk towards it ..its shape will deform as u get closer, as a hgher resolution 'model' is used.
Problem with this in a game such as MWO is that long range shots over the edge of said hill, are a PITA when som1 is just peaking over the top to shoot u ..they r right next to it and can see the full resolution , they know exaclty how much room they have. Those at range do not. Infact somtimes the enemy mech can be entirly consealed from your point of view.

Anyway like i said its been present since Day dot, i just dealt with it, but with so many mechs now aroudn with high hardpoint locations that are ablle to peak above such hill very well, tryign to fire back from range is somtimes inpossible.

Edited by ArmageddonKnight, 03 June 2017 - 12:49 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Antares102, on 03 June 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

Hm ok probably I got I wrong. But whats you problem then?
That your shots go over the enemy mech when its poking? That you hit the terrain instead of the mech?
This would be a terran/hit-reg issue?

He's talking about the terrain LOD switching being extremely aggressive. At certain ranges, the terrain renders at a lower level of detail, so geo that's actually there turns invisible. The result is hitting terrain that you can't see...and then you get close and it pops in and you go "oh that's f*cking stupid."

Then, of course, there are the collision boxes being bigger than any level of detail, i.e. HPG. Similar result.

[Antares102]

Ah so you mean clipping errors and LODing issues of the terrain?
Well this has been around since forever and wont see any fix I guess.

[ArmageddonKnight]

I figured by now som1 would have a working user.cfg that helps. its CryEngine, has a good level of tweeking with such things.

[PhoenixFire55]

The problem is PGI disabled all but a few variables in user.cfg because "reasons". As someone who had a similar issue for a long time playing on my old PC, I'm afraid there is nothing much you can do apart from playing on high or ultra settings. Terrain "popping" stops (or rather occurs at distances of 2km+ you don't care about), but invisible walls (i.e. terrain that is physically there but consistently not visible) remain an issue for everyone.

[HGAK47]

I know exactly what you are talking about.

He is talking about when viewing enemy mechs at range, on some maps if they are behind certain types of cover, from your vantage point you have a clear line of sight to the enemy torso, at least the upper part. When you shoot however you will see your projectiles or weapons fire hit the "invisible" cover that is actually just the real terrain in the way.
I dont know if its the game code that removes the call to render said terrain on your end as i guess its optimisation work or it thinks you cant see it so why render it, but in actual fact the cover is very real and is very much there. Your client just failed to show it to you.

If you move forward and backwards say 50-100 meters or so usually you can see it "pop in and pop out"


(I find it a lot on some of the Ice levels like Polar, its not super common but it happens enough to be a pain)

[Jiang Wei]

Limitations of the game engine.

[Xetelian]

Antares102, on 03 June 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Lol no!
What do you expect? You want to nerf mechs with high mounts even further?
High mount weapons were always the choice to go and the mechs
with high mounts have been nerfed many time e.g. Stalker, Battlemaster, Kodiak.

Git gut thats you have to do not cry for nerfs of the mechs that kill you.

Whoa, full attack mode on a innocent question about terrain not loading right.


I wonder how many people have you on ignore if this is how you treat people.

[l33tworks]

Xetelian, on 05 June 2017 - 02:21 AM, said:

Whoa, full attack mode on a innocent question about terrain not loading right.


I wonder how many people have you on ignore if this is how you treat people.

Cut him some slack. He Thought OP wanted mechs that poke over a hill and shoot you with high mounted weapons to be nerfed.

[Xetelian]

l33tworks, on 05 June 2017 - 03:22 AM, said:

Cut him some slack. He Thought OP wanted mechs that poke over a hill and shoot you with high mounted weapons to be nerfed.

I can imagine what he thought, but if he had taken half a second to read more than just the high mounts mention he would have realized the problem wasn't with high mounts but with incorrectly displaying terrain which is made worse by having so many mechs with high mounts peeking.

No body benefits from a Git Gud reply, no matter how warranted it doesn't do anyone any good.


Sounds like the guy uses high mounts and thinks everyone that mentions them is attacking him personally.

Edited by Xetelian, 05 June 2017 - 03:33 AM.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

You can mitigate this to some degree by setting Object Detail in graphics as far up as it will go. But even then, it's still not a perfect solution as you still get the same problem at extreme ranges.

[Y E O N N E]

Jiang Wei, on 05 June 2017 - 02:17 AM, said:

Limitations of the game engine.

Not at all, this is a choice by PGI.

[Summon3r]

Jiang Wei, on 05 June 2017 - 02:17 AM, said:

Limitations of the game engine.

try limitations of the people working with the game engine

[Appogee]

I believe it's called 'terrain clipping', caused by terrain hitmeshes being misaligned and inaccurate vs the actual terrain geometry and textures that you see.

Developers who take pride in the quality of their workmanship fix such things. Would you like to buy a Mech Pack?

Edited by Appogee, 05 June 2017 - 07:38 AM.

[Beaching Betty]

I hate this too, like when Im about to get a perfect shot the cockpit and bang, I hit a terrain.. Sad me