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[kapusta11]

Never forget.

[Palfatreos]

or basicly any 12 clan spl laser boats.

[Xetelian]

1/3rd of its power gone, which is silly because there are a lot of different ways to nerf it but they chose to take damage off of it instead of increasing duration/cooldown/heat which would have been a better way I think.

[Nighthawk513]

I honestly would have been fine with another point of heat for the same damage. Sure, it would be a pain to cool my cheetah or Purifier off, but at least I could possibly kill something. With the patch version, I have to sit around and shoot heavies for a lot longer while driving a mech that many heavies can cripple or kill in half a second.
Guess I just need to buy some more huntsmans, load the with 6 ASRM6, and join the deathball hive mind.

[Juodas Varnas]

There's absolutely no reason why it should deal more damage than the IS version.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 17 June 2017 - 04:54 AM.

[Ced Riggs]

Clearly, Mr. Gargles and Sexycuteners were just too strong. Something had to be done. Thank you, PGI, for making this well informed decision.

Maybe nuTech will save them. :^)

[Lupis Volk]

If only the Hero version wasn't gimped. But hey Clans aren't allowed build variation.

[oldradagast]

Another sloppy and illogical design choice by PGI.

The only mechs that used small pulse lasers were lights and brawlers (or brawling lights), which is NOT the class or role that needed to be nerfed in this game. Oh, well - at least they nerfed other things... wait.... that's not good either.

[Bigbacon]

yea bye bye my 7 SPL stormcrow

[razenWing]

Juodas Varnas, on 17 June 2017 - 04:53 AM, said:

There's absolutely no reason why it should deal more damage than the IS version.

talk to me when the IS version also suffers from both the higher heat AND ghost heat.

[El Bandito]

razenWing, on 17 June 2017 - 05:23 AM, said:

talk to me when the IS version also suffers from both the higher heat AND ghost heat.

Higher heat can be explained away by 50% longer range of CSPL. As for GH limitation argument, there are no good IS small laser builds, even without GH limitation. And CERSL still offers IS ML worth of damage at 0.5 ton so Clan small laser boating build is still salvageable to a degree--especially on mechs such as Nova.

CSPL was simply an outlier. And thanks to it, IS SPL and CERSL suffered in this patch.

Edited by El Bandito, 17 June 2017 - 05:33 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

razenWing, on 17 June 2017 - 05:23 AM, said:

talk to me when the IS version also suffers from both the higher heat AND ghost heat.

Talk to me when there are decent IS mechs that are even capable of having more small lasers than the clan GH limit, lol

[SteelMantis]

Hehe, guess I'm in the minority here.

I know why my 12 cSPL Nova got nerfed.

[kapusta11]

Juodas Varnas, on 17 June 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

Talk to me when there are decent IS mechs that are even capable of having more small lasers than the clan GH limit, lol

Wouldn't it be better to just buff IS small lasers? You know, so that they are more effective within their optimal range than, say, SRMs, or any other weapon for that matter.

[Juodas Varnas]

kapusta11, on 17 June 2017 - 05:37 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be better to just buff IS small lasers? You know, so that they are more effective within their optimal range than, say, SRMs, or any other weapon for that matter.

I like nerfing things.

[razenWing]

Juodas Varnas, on 17 June 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

Talk to me when there are decent IS mechs that are even capable of having more small lasers than the clan GH limit, lol

Really? ever heard of the partyback?

edit: besides, your b33f seems to be with mech design. Please call 1800-who-care and redirect your call to the btech designers.

Edited by razenWing, 17 June 2017 - 05:46 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

razenWing, on 17 June 2017 - 05:45 AM, said:

Really? ever heard of the partyback?

edit: besides, your b33f seems to be with mech design. Please call 1800-who-care and redirect your call to the btech designers.

Oh suuuure, because the "partyback" is such a GREAT design that nobody in their right mind uses nowadays, because of how pathetically easy it is to completely neuter by placing a single alpha into its Right torso that can be hit from any side of the mech.

[kapusta11]

SteelMantis, on 17 June 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

Hehe, guess I'm in the minority here.

I know why my 12 cSPL Nova got nerfed.

Let me guess.

[El Bandito]

kapusta11, on 17 June 2017 - 05:37 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be better to just buff IS small lasers? You know, so that they are more effective within their optimal range than, say, SRMs, or any other weapon for that matter.

PGI should have buffed IS small lasers, yes. But CSPL was indeed an outlier, too good when boated--even with GH limitation. I suspect the nerfs/buffs this incoming patch have something to do with the Heavy/Micro/IS ER lasers in the upcoming new tech.

[kapusta11]

El Bandito, on 17 June 2017 - 05:56 AM, said:

PGI should have buffed IS small lasers, yes. But CSPL was indeed an outlier, too good when boated--even with GH limitation. I suspect the nerfs/buffs this incoming patch have something to do with the Heavy/Micro/IS ER lasers in the upcoming new tech.

Too good when boated? Better than boated Gauss and PPCs? Better than boated U/ACs. Better than boated LPLs?

Edited by kapusta11, 17 June 2017 - 06:00 AM.