Link to table showing June 20 weapons compared by type with new patch changes.
Jay Leon Hart's table from this post expanded.
Added in more columns plus the IS LL and IS PPC.
IS SL/SPL limited to 9 not 8, there has been players running 9SPL Hunchback-4Ps.
Went further, added Ballistic and Missile sheets.
Color markings
Green - item where a weapon has the advantage.
Red - 5 Clan weapons (cERSL, cSPL, cERML, cMPL, cLPL) do not have Max Range 2xRange like others. Also used to show oddity in all LBX speeds vs AC/UAC speeds.
Purple - where a energy weapon considered one below actually has the advantage.
I did add some comparisons like putting the cERSL with ML and cERML because Purple marked items take away advantages from some IS weapons.
Given the high Alpha damage some Mechs can put out, I have not counted IS Health advantage as part of below.
Ghost Heat column - numbers in brackets are not GH limits, they are highest amount that can be fitted on any chassis.
Short list of Energy winners (not counting Red marked items)
SL vs cERSL - IS+2
SPL vs cSPL - IS+1
ML vs cERML - IS+1
ML vs cERSL - Clan+2
MPL vs cMPL - IS+1
MPL vs cSPL - Clan+1
LL vs cERML - IS+1 (might be Tie)
ERLL vs cERLL - IS+1
LPL vs cLPL - IS+1
LPL vs cMPL - Tie (might be Clan+1)
PPC vs cERPPC - Tie
ERPPC vs cERPPC - Tie
Short list of Ballistic winners (not counting Red marked items)
MG vs cMG - Tie
Gauss vs cGauss - Clan+2
AC2 vs cAC2 - Clan+2
AC5 vs cAC5 - Tie
UAC5 vs cUAC5 - Tie
AC10 vs cAC10 - Clan+1
LBX10 vs cLBX10 - Clan+2
AC20 vs cAC20 - Clan+1
Short list of Missile winners (not counting AMS effects)
same size LRM(#) vs cLRM(#) - Tie
same size SRM(#) vs cSRM(#) - IS+1
SSRM2 vs cSSRM2 - Clan+1
IS has an edge with Energy, Clan with Ballistic.
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#1
Posted 17 June 2017 - 03:37 PM
#2
Posted 17 June 2017 - 04:05 PM
First off, good job!
A few corrections though
cMG should be [7] (SHC-P OmniPods)
AC5 should be [6] (MAL-MX90)
AC10 should be [3] (Cataphract "Ilya Muromets")
LB10X should be [4] (Cyclops "Sleipnir", 3 Maulers)
SRM2 & cSRM2 should be 6 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
Sreak SRM2 & cStreak SRM2 should be 4 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then Streak SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
I'll have a proper look tomorrow. Good job
Wildstreak, on 17 June 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:
Ghost Heat column - numbers in brackets are not GH limits, they are highest amount that can be fitted on any chassis.
A few corrections though
cMG should be [7] (SHC-P OmniPods)
AC5 should be [6] (MAL-MX90)
AC10 should be [3] (Cataphract "Ilya Muromets")
LB10X should be [4] (Cyclops "Sleipnir", 3 Maulers)
SRM2 & cSRM2 should be 6 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
Sreak SRM2 & cStreak SRM2 should be 4 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then Streak SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
I'll have a proper look tomorrow. Good job
#3
Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:15 PM
Jay Leon Hart, on 17 June 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:
First off, good job!
A few corrections though
cMG should be [7] (SHC-P OmniPods)
AC5 should be [6] (MAL-MX90)
AC10 should be [3] (Cataphract "Ilya Muromets")
LB10X should be [4] (Cyclops "Sleipnir", 3 Maulers)
SRM2 & cSRM2 should be 6 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
Sreak SRM2 & cStreak SRM2 should be 4 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then Streak SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
I'll have a proper look tomorrow. Good job
A few corrections though
cMG should be [7] (SHC-P OmniPods)
AC5 should be [6] (MAL-MX90)
AC10 should be [3] (Cataphract "Ilya Muromets")
LB10X should be [4] (Cyclops "Sleipnir", 3 Maulers)
SRM2 & cSRM2 should be 6 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
Sreak SRM2 & cStreak SRM2 should be 4 (unless Smurfy is wrong, then Streak SRM2 would be [9] (ARC-5W))
I'll have a proper look tomorrow. Good job
Most of those I'll take your word though I would never put 6AC5 or 4LBX10 on a Mauler.
Don't know how I missed the SRM2/SSRM2.
But the cMG I had at 8 for the Mist Lynx-G variant when the next Clan Heroes drop, don't know why it became 6.
#4
Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:19 PM
Wildstreak, on 18 June 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:
Most of those I'll take your word though I would never put 6AC5 or 4LBX10 on a Mauler.
Don't know how I missed the SRM2/SSRM2.
But the cMG I had at 8 for the Mist Lynx-G variant when the next Clan Heroes drop, don't know why it became 6.
Don't know how I missed the SRM2/SSRM2.
But the cMG I had at 8 for the Mist Lynx-G variant when the next Clan Heroes drop, don't know why it became 6.
I tried the 6x AC5 Mauler once, it was not good, but entirely possible with armour and a decent amount of ammo.
I run a 4x LB10X Sleipnir and Mauler when 4x UAC5s just aren't doing it for me.
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