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[Lovas]

cheekiez, on 26 June 2017 - 05:46 AM, said:

...so i make it a challange to kill as many as i can....

For everyone's information, sometimes cheekiez is colorblind and he doesn't distinguish blue from red. He aims to kill no matter what team you are on.

Hi cheekiez! don't kill me please!

*EDIT*

Medicine Man, on 25 June 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

Instead you spend most of your time here in the FP section of the forums bragging about how skilled you are and yet... You have the perfect opportunity to prove it fighting other teams like yours and you don't. You only want to fight pugs.

The OP is almost entirely backwards with his complaining - I rarely ever see a "Look at me" topic here in the faction warfare section. It is almost always a version of "I suck and that man beat me up and took my lunch money!" emotional brats....

Edited by Lovas, 26 June 2017 - 08:26 AM.

[draiocht]

[mod]Due to the purposely insulting and unconstructive tone of the original post,
this thread has been moved to
Kaetetôã.[/mod]

Edited by draiocht, 26 June 2017 - 08:56 AM.

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Welcome to K-Town.

We have pants to prevent further butthurt, and cake and tacos to eat while the prior hurt fades

[Hal Greaves]

Lovas, on 26 June 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

For everyone's information, sometimes cheekiez lovas is colorblind and he doesn't distinguish blue from red. He aims to kill no matter what team you are on.

fixed that for ya!

[Mechwarrior4670152]

This is K-Town, we fix EVERYTHING

[Lovas]

Hal Greaves, on 26 June 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

fixed that for ya!

Thanks Hal. Everyone knows the rules now....do NOT stand between me and Eidolon.

Wence the Wanderer, on 26 June 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

This is K-Town, we fix EVERYTHING

Never been here before. Is it safe to be out at night here?

Edited by Lovas, 26 June 2017 - 12:28 PM.

[TWIAFU]

Medicine Man, on 25 June 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

I can't help but notice that most of you braggers from seal clubbing units aren't in the competitive forum.

Instead you spend most of your time here in the FP section of the forums bragging about how skilled you are and yet... You have the perfect opportunity to prove it fighting other teams like yours and you don't. You only want to fight pugs.

When I asked why I was told it was just because FP has funner maps with more players on them. If that is true then why aren't you clubbers agitating to get better competitive maps?

I think the reason is that you are to busy here trying to defend your seal clubber turf. You flat out don't have the balls to take on teams like your own with your same playstyle.

That is why you need to shut up bragging about your "skill." If you want bragging rights take it to competitive. Your just a bunch of toadies standing on your buddies shoulders until you do.

Why are you dropping as a seal where you know it is not made for seals?

Why not stick to the queue that was made for you if you do not like fighting teamwork?

I hate rolling you into the ground as much as I hate being rolled. Only difference is that I DO something about it. I take matters into my own hands to improve my own experiences, I group up. I change and adapt to the mode I have chosen to play in. However, you will not. Everything must change to suit you.

Attitude like that all your going to get is rolled over and over.

Enjoy,

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Lovas, on 26 June 2017 - 12:20 PM, said:

Never been here before. Is it safe to be out at night here?

About as safe as anywhere, the birds that reside here are friendly enough

TWIAFU, on 26 June 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

Enjoy,

This is K-Town.

The only topics here are birds, pants, cake, and tacos

[MischiefSC]

If top tier comp teams showed up in FW it would increase attendance for a lot of units. One of the hallmarks of a lot of good teams is that they'll queue up again and again to play better teams, it's how you get good.

Which, ironically, is why the comp teams don't play FW. Too few people for them to be challenged by and learn from. Also comp is way more strategy than tactics and FW is more tactics than strategy. Apples and oranges. Not that the top tier comp teams wouldn't win 99.999% of the time but it's a matter of how the game plays out. Same reason people prefer GQ or FW vs the other.

[LordNothing]

Vanguard319, on 25 June 2017 - 11:57 PM, said:

I agree with this sentiment. The real problem is that PGI chose to pander to the esports scene over building a game that even a more casual player could pick up and win matches in. As the game is now, if you pug, you are going to more often than not lose, and lose badly. to win in FP nowadays, you either have to be lucky enough as a pug to be teamed up with comp players, or you have to join a competitive unit. Neither one is an acceptable option IMO.

i dont know if its that bad. both my w/l (0.8) and k/d (>1) are the highest theyve ever been in faction play. i still loose more but seldom with terrible score. its good enough that fp is profitable. but not everyone is at my skill level. the learning curve is brutal and many wash out before they get to this point.

what the denizens of the teamspeak servers dont realize is that their way is a life style moreso than a play style. ive tried it and i dont like it. when i play its to drop out, not to hang out. i can do this and do things that are conductive to victory. have good aim bring good loadouts. if you can do these two things you are better than 90% of pugs out there. teamwork helps but you dont need to communicate to be a team player. you see a guy in trouble you help, you see the enemy screw up and you capitalize. if somebody calls the drop its in your best interest to go with it. when i did drop with units it was usually just one guy doing the calling and maybe a backup, and every now and then somone would call out a weak target. i even call a few when its not noisy.

the worst pugs are the ones with a narrowly defined comfort zone and dont ever want to leave it. if you only camp you are never going to develop close in brawling skills, and that might be what you need to win. lerms are another one of those comfort zone players. having to take that thing into close quarters and using your backups (you did bring backups right?) might be what you have to do. taking a mech into a non-optimal situation is often neccisary. same goes for taking your laser vomit build into a lake of lava.

[TWIAFU]

Wence the Wanderer, on 26 June 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

About as safe as anywhere, the birds that reside here are friendly enough
This is K-Town.

The only topics here are birds, pants, cake, and tacos

[Void Angel]

Tarogato, on 26 June 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

Actually, "bragger" is correct.

Well, both are correct, both are real words, and both have been used for centuries. "Bragger" may even be the older form, dating back to middle english, perhaps 200 years before "braggart".

Huh; right you are. That makes your post probably the most worthwhile thing about this thread.

[Crockdaddy]

Medicine Man, on 25 June 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

I don't think the answer is for me to change my playstyle or for you to change yours.

Flat out I don't give a damn about socializing and I have friends in real life. I don't need to make them here. I'm not opposed to it but I'm not gonna go to work on it either.

So how about instead of EITHER of us changing our playstyles, how about we both just play the games that suit us.

Why in the world are you opposed to that other than the joy of clubbing seals? Which frankly is a motive that I find worthless and almost beyond contempt.

The only answer I can come up with I already stated. You can't handle playing against real teams like yours. And that is why I suggest that you and your unit and all the other clubber units lack the skill you brag about so much.

If you did not then you would put it on the line where it counts. But instead you just seek opponents weaker than yourself and that's pathetic.

Bro ... I know you will never understand as the word team based game is foreign to you but I would suggest taking your anti-social self over to PubG. You can drop solo yolo against 99 other solo yolos. It is great fun ... you can camp (LRM). Troll (talk about how bad everyone is compared to you). You don't have to worry about pesky teammates. In fact the PvP is rather intense. There is a group queue but feel free to ignore it or better yet jump into a Steam Made group ... there should be a bunch of social misfits just like you talking about my mom and your mom ... then you can mutually yell at each other about how they suck and how they don't need to work together to beat the other teams because well leadership duh. Seriously, I am feeling generous, I can gift you a steam key and make you happy for once.

Edited by Crockdaddy, 27 June 2017 - 06:08 AM.

[DANKnuggz]

Medicine Man, on 25 June 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

I can't help but notice that most of you braggers from seal clubbing units aren't in the competitive forum.

Instead you spend most of your time here in the FP section of the forums bragging about how skilled you are and yet... You have the perfect opportunity to prove it fighting other teams like yours and you don't. You only want to fight pugs.

When I asked why I was told it was just because FP has funner maps with more players on them. If that is true then why aren't you clubbers agitating to get better competitive maps?

I think the reason is that you are to busy here trying to defend your seal clubber turf. You flat out don't have the balls to take on teams like your own with your same playstyle.

That is why you need to shut up bragging about your "skill." If you want bragging rights take it to competitive. Your just a bunch of toadies standing on your buddies shoulders until you do.

wow.... a bit too much salt in this post.

I think you're forgetting that the seals are so BAD that even players who aren't at full comp level can club the hell out of them with ease. Many of these "comp" teams (so to speak) have players at multiple skill levels and only a small portion of them are actual competitive level players.

Why is it bad players are always looking to place the blame for their losses on anyone other than themselves??

"you guys are too good to play here and its all your fault I get stomped while refusing to get better."

The terribads already have QP, so what now you want the good players to leave to competitive so the terribads can have FP also??

If you're having a hard time competing playing the way you are maybe you should think about changing the way you're playing instead of expecting others to change to accommodate you. We're not here to serve you after all.

[Commander A9]

Okay, I'll bite.

It sounds like the argument states that units that claim they are skilled in Faction Play are not because they refuse to play Competitive Play.

Are we trying to suggest that if a unit does not play in Competitive Play that they are unskilled entirely and that their performance in Faction Warfare should be dismissed as no longer representative of their abilities because it isn't "true skill?"

Here's the problem with that: Faction Warfare and Competitive Play, and even Quickplay, all demand different play styles and skill sets. To say that because a unit plays only one style of play, that means that unit is unskilled in its entirety is simply wrong.

It simply means that a unit is good in one gameplay mode, and does not play the other gameplay mode in question.

But that does not make them any less-skilled: it makes them skilled in a particular gameplay style without attention given to other gameplay modes, in particular by unit choice.

Now I will say however that units should not grow too lax as to use pug battles as representative of the abilities of all enemy forces, because units should be ready and able to face organized enemy forces who will offer up more organized resistance.

Still, proof of a given unit's abilities is all in the leaderboards...although leaderboards take only numbers of planetary victories as the deciding factor in determining rank...

Edited by Commander A9, 27 June 2017 - 02:53 PM.

[nehebkau]

Commander A9, on 27 June 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Still, proof of a given unit's abilities is all in the leaderboards...although leaderboards take only numbers of planetary victories as the deciding factor in determining rank...

The leaderboards are utter crap! The true measure of how good a mechwarrior you are is how long you can keep diet coke and mentos in your mouth without it squirting out your nose.

[Mechwarrior4670152]

TWIAFU, on 27 June 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

You don't have to wear them, but they DO keep the butthurt down.

Crockdaddy, on 27 June 2017 - 06:07 AM, said:

Stuff

DANKnuggz, on 27 June 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

Not Birds

Commander A9, on 27 June 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Not pants

nehebkau, on 01 July 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

Not cake or tacos

This is K-Town folks

THAT discussion is over