31 replies to this topic

[Baba Yogi]

terra therma, caustic, forest colony these are ****** maps and im glad they dont show up that often. Now, if we could remove frozen city and grim plexus i'd be happy (frozen city has far too much space between cities and every single grim plexus match plays out around the same place so BOOORING).

[DAYLEET]

With 15 maps(quick play) It wouldnt be hard to change the voting system to look at the last 7 maps of each player in the game and weight the selection based on the least played. You would get a system that is fair for everyone and least prone to be exploited with mech/build.

[Humpday]

Dude I'm so over playing grim plexus...I hope they decomm that stupid map.
I still can't, for the world of me, understand why open terrain maps are not mutable.
Even if that tech is not available using the current engine...

Just make 5 different variations of the current maps, move crap around. Yeesh.

[Frok Snoop]

I will vote for Terra Therma every (rare) opportunity. I prefer it because everyone else seems not to and I want to pull people out of their comfort zones. I build up a high vote multiplier (by selecting the obvious non-HPG and non-snow maps) just for a chance to play there, and I will then have to actually stop casting a vote in order to preserve my enhanced vote strength. I currently have a x11 multiplier, and have been voting only on TT since about x8. It seems like the system has recently reduced the frequency of TT appearing on the vote screen because I have been saving up this multiplier, not voting on anything, just waiting to see my map come up. I had previously been able to get TT going at least once per day (during my daily play session), but it has been several days now with no luck.

It is not even the hottest map, but the usual pre-game chatter I have heard/seen suggests that people believe it will melt you somehow. Meanwhile the (hotter) Tourmaline Desert will get picked fairly frequently and I have never heard/seen anyone acknowledge the temperature there.

There are also some low visibility elements (dark terrain / glowing lava contrast) which encourage the use of night vision and provide spice to the game.

Why do so many people shy away from this map? I would think that MWO players would appreciate a challenge, but it seems like most people just want their cookie-cutter predictable repetition. In my mind it is like the non-thinking meta-sheep; too afraid to go outside the box.

[Thrudvangar]

The Mysterious Fox, on 27 June 2017 - 07:25 AM, said:

not all maps are good and add to that problem by not having enough maps to rotate around. Thats the weakness of this slot machine system. Id rather they just implement a prepicked maps so everyone gets what they want instead of the incursion/escort nightmare.

See below. Everybody wants to play in his comfort zone. Wants to play on the best map
for his currently chosen mech/loadout so there will be only a few maps left wich will be
picked over and over again. Put that together with the voting screen and here's the problem
we have right now.

Frok Snoop, on 27 June 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

I will vote for Terra Therma every (rare) opportunity. I prefer it because everyone else seems not to and I want to pull people out of their comfort zones. I build up a high vote multiplier (by selecting the obvious non-HPG and non-snow maps) just for a chance to play there, and I will then have to actually stop casting a vote in order to preserve my enhanced vote strength. I currently have a x11 multiplier, and have been voting only on TT since about x8. It seems like the system has recently reduced the frequency of TT appearing on the vote screen because I have been saving up this multiplier, not voting on anything, just waiting to see my map come up. I had previously been able to get TT going at least once per day (during my daily play session), but it has been several days now with no luck.

It is not even the hottest map, but the usual pre-game chatter I have heard/seen suggests that people believe it will melt you somehow. Meanwhile the (hotter) Tourmaline Desert will get picked fairly frequently and I have never heard/seen anyone acknowledge the temperature there.

There are also some low visibility elements (dark terrain / glowing lava contrast) which encourage the use of night vision and provide spice to the game.

Why do so many people shy away from this map? I would think that MWO players would appreciate a challenge, but it seems like most people just want their cookie-cutter predictable repetition. In my mind it is like the non-thinking meta-sheep; too afraid to go outside the box.

Exactly...

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Please guys, don't talk about the game modes. Most if not all of them are just skirmish 2.0 and its senseless.
Topic is about the map cycle and the way that "cycle" is currently handled by pgi.

It's just senseless.

Every map should have the same % chance to show up on the voting screen (if we cant get rid if it before).
Also every game mode should be handled like this.

Ppl shouldn't be able to vote for their "comfort zones" they should deal with that what shows up
on the match screen and get ready for it.

100% random for map and game mode. Every map we have so far should get played, otherwise pgi, just delete
the not wanted and keep the clean and wide open fielded ones and see how "fun" mwo will get for everyone.

[Bigbacon]

Monkey Lover, on 26 June 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

tier 1 meta

Meta picks the map. Maps being used over and over people move to the meta.


I wish they would go back to 100% random.

I agree, make game mode a vote but not the map. Sick of the same map over and over. Force people into terra therma and such. Force them to play the game under not the best of map conditions.

[Thrudvangar]

Bigbacon, on 28 June 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

I agree, make game mode a vote but not the map. Sick of the same map over and over. Force people into terra therma and such. Force them to play the game under not the best of map conditions.

Yeah... so how will we be able to bring this up to pgi?

[Gwahlur]

+1 for 100% random map and mode selection

[Haipyng]

Instead of voting on map and game mode give us a effective choice and let us choose a loaded mech from a drop deck to go with the map and game type that is drawn. No more LRM boat for Mining or a hot laser rig for Tourmaline.

Maybe lights could be useful again when you draw a capping map. I've hated not having a game type choice since they took that away as you have to run a light several maps over before getting a capping map to play it on.

[Haipyng]

Bigbacon, on 28 June 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

I agree, make game mode a vote but not the map. Sick of the same map over and over. Force people into terra therma and such. Force them to play the game under not the best of map conditions.

It used to be like that. That was changed to reduce queue times due to low population.

[Thrudvangar]

Haipyng, on 29 June 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

Instead of voting on map and game mode give us a effective choice and let us choose a loaded mech from a drop deck to go with the map and game type that is drawn. No more LRM boat for Mining or a hot laser rig for Tourmaline.

Maybe lights could be useful again when you draw a capping map. I've hated not having a game type choice since they took that away as you have to run a light several maps over before getting a capping map to play it on.

That would be a step in the wrong direction...

To deal with the maps different terrain, heat, visuals etc... is the point..

Do you wanna have a 12 vs 12 LRMs only on Polar Highlands?? How boring would that be?
Or 12 vs 12 Sniper festival on Alpine? ..because everybody wants to play in his preferred meta on
the preferred maps for that?

Please no.

Lights can and ARE useful in many ways, not only for caps..

Edited by Thrudvangar, 29 June 2017 - 11:04 PM.

[Thrudvangar]

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