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[Snowbluff]

Seriously, most of my mechs aren't even kitted out properly. Engines are so expensive, especially the XLs. Now that I've bought my panther and wolf how, I'm going on a quest to use the event money on engines.

[Escef]

I have over 270 mechs, all of them fully kitted (other than consumables). Before the skill revision I was constantly moving Radar Deps and Seismic Sensors around. Now? Heh, slowly working on assigning skill points, got all my Inner Sphere Mediums more or less done. Once I have the legacy skill points distributed I'll know how freely I can spend my GSP (have enough to master out over 100 mechs).

[Dago Red]

That's a worthy goal but I can't help but wonder if it isn't a waste of cash this close to new engines dropping.

[LordNothing]

i have a massive collection of engine. at least one of every engine over 170 rating for both standard and isxl and usually 3 or 4 of the more popular sizes. i have fewer clan xls, about every other size, because there arent really that many clan battlemechs and you cant swap omni engines. many of the engines less than 170 are obsoleted by engines of the same weight with a higher speed rating. and there are not many mechs with engine caps below that. like for xls there is only 3 engines that are worth equipping, the 100, the 125 and the 145, the others work but you can always go up to one of these and 170 without needing any more tonnage. the 120 is obsoleted by heat sink, engine is a ton lighter, but you need to equip that heat sink no matter what, better not using your crits for that.

Edited by LordNothing, 22 June 2017 - 10:00 PM.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

Skill Tree refunds plus my subsequent winnowing of redundant variants resulted in me actually being able to finally put engines in all of my ~90 remaining 'Mechs. I actually have a surplus of engines now; before I had about thirty 'Mechs that I couldn't drop in for want of equipment or weapons or both.

Of course, with LFEs on the way, that's going to throw a gigantic monkey wrench in my smug sense of completionist satisfaction. I have about a dozen 'Mechs that are slated for immediate retrofitting and only enough cbills for half that many (assuming I sell some of the engines I have on hand)... nevermind the RACs, MRMs, and other goodies I'm gonna have to buy.

Which wouldn't be a problem if I had the playtime in the next month or so to address the cbill deficiency...

[Snowbluff]

Well I think I know which mechs I want LFEs for. My WHM 6R might run an LFE 2 uac5, 1 ppc (or 3 light ppc), instead of the XL 2 ac5 and 2 ppc it has now. So I want get XLs for those mechs.

[Escef]

Oh, gawds, next month I'm going to go nuts with refits. Light engines, UAC10s and 20s, Light and Snub-nosed PPCs, light ferro armor, Streak 4s... RACs... ERSLs... Just... STUFF.

[Ced Riggs]

Same here. I am holding off on buying some engines until the LFEs hit. It's gonna be an STD engine funeral.

[El Bandito]

After my useless IS mech selling spree I pretty much have enough engines for all the rest of the mechs in my garage.

Just waiting for new tech and the MC II pack that I won arriving next month, so I can spend C-Bills on them.

[Bandilly]

Been keeping 100m cbills around just to cover LFEs next month.

[rustyrat]

I think end game is to push rank 15 on all factions... And finally 20 the next round.

[Ced Riggs]

Bandilly, on 23 June 2017 - 02:45 AM, said:

Been keeping 100m cbills around just to cover LFEs next month.

That's a lot of engines. Are you a monster truck show mechanic?

[STEF_]

Escef, on 23 June 2017 - 01:08 AM, said:

Oh, gawds, next month I'm going to go nuts with refits. Light engines, UAC10s and 20s, Light and Snub-nosed PPCs, light ferro armor, Streak 4s... RACs... ERSLs... Just... STUFF.

Next month I'm going to be happy!
Mechlabbing love!

And finally IS is going to be good



(pgi, don't kill my high hopes and new tech hype)

[PyckenZot]

My perception of end-game: receive so much GSP after the skill-tree introduction that you most probably can master every single mech you will still buy in this game.

It's kinda sad,...

Seriously, I'm only leveling my mechs the hard way to see how the expanding tree affects gameplay. For the next 100+ mechs I buy I don't need to though.

Edited by PyckenZot, 23 June 2017 - 03:29 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Bandilly, on 23 June 2017 - 02:45 AM, said:

Been keeping 100m cbills around just to cover LFEs next month.

Same here. 2 quickies, 1 dragon, 4 thunderbolts, 3 maybe 4 of my jaggers, 2 catapults, 4 phracts, 2 warhammers, 2 black knights, 3 marauders, maybe 2 victors, 2 zeus, 1 awesome, etc. All are getting LFE refits. I don't think 100m is going to cover it. Start slow I guess. Hmm...then there are new weapons. Crap.

[JC Daxion]

Snowbluff, on 22 June 2017 - 09:27 PM, said:

Seriously, most of my mechs aren't even kitted out properly. Engines are so expensive, especially the XLs. Now that I've bought my panther and wolf how, I'm going on a quest to use the event money on engines.

100X better than trying to outfit them all with modules...


Can't wait for the LFE's! ::waves bye to 100m:::

[Kmieciu]

Everybody`s waiting for LFEs like it's the second coming of Jesus... just to get an inferior version of the clan XL.
I'd rather use IS XL on a XL friendly mech, than to have a light engine on a mech with bad hitboxes.

[Hestan]

Ced Riggs, on 23 June 2017 - 03:17 AM, said:

That's a lot of engines. Are you a monster truck show mechanic?

Not really, given a price point between light and XL, thats about 20 or 30 engines. Spend some of that on new weapons and it's maybe 10 or 15 engines.

[Ced Riggs]

Kmieciu, on 23 June 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

Everybody`s waiting for LFEs like it's the second coming of Jesus... just to get an inferior version of the clan XL.
I'd rather use IS XL on a XL friendly mech, than to have a light engine on a mech with bad hitboxes.

Look, no one is trying to say that LFE or LFF are THE BEST THING EVER. But they will do something the current options cannot do.

Will LFF be a game changer? Hell no. Will LFF allow mechs with 10 crit slots open to bring another ton of armor/ammo/heatsink? Yes. Will LFE be a game changer? For many mechs, it will greatly increase their top speeds and/or weapons load. Will LFE make IS mechs as fast as clan mechs? No. Will LFE allow IS mechs to go faster/equip more guns/ammo without becoming one-shots to the ST? Yes.

Comparing apples to oranges won't help. We have to look at the heavy STD Engine, and the fragile XL engine. Clan XL does not matter. Can't put a clan XL into an IS mech. And in that environment, LFE will be quite impactful. Your suggestion to "just use XL-friendly mechs" only perpetuates the age-old problem MWO has: Bad chassis vs. good chassis. Abandoning the bad mechs as if they don't matter for balance is very shortsighted. But getting a King Crab up to speed while still boating a lot of guns, that's an advantage. Getting a Crab to become resilient to ST loss, that's an advantage (that even allows that mech to dead side!). In numbers, too. With ST armor being two thirds of front armor, your hit points now increased by 33% if not 50%.

So, yeah. LFE's a bit of a big deal.

[JediPanther]

I just keep swaping xl and st on my mechs. I've got space bucks rich but I'm not blowing it on untested stuff. One or two lights will be my test for the new tech vs old.