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[Ced Riggs]

Heya,

Some more feedback for specific weapons. This time, the Heavy Laser family.

Good: Damage to tonnage ratio is insanely good. You pay with crits, which is taxing on locked omnis - fair.
Bad: Burn times make them borderline useless.
Neutral: I guess these guys help the Executioner and have a role as backstab assassin weapons only.

Conclusion: I'll use it on some mechs, but this is a niche weapon.

Suggestion for fix: The burn times need to go down, PGI. This is crazy. Almost 2 seconds on the HLL, really?

[Reno Blade]

I find the duration to be fine.
Sure you cant alpha and twist like on pulse lasers, but thats the point.
You get double IS lasers basically for single laser tonnage.

[Gas Guzzler]

What about the ghost heat limits? Is it 4 for Heavy medium lasers?

Reno Blade, on 28 June 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

I find the duration to be fine.
Sure you cant alpha and twist like on pulse lasers, but thats the point.
You get double IS lasers basically for single laser tonnage.

In other words just don't use them because the enemy can just twist them off as long as they aren't a super potato? Cool, great addition to the game.

[Reno Blade]

Gas Guzzler, on 28 June 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

What about the ghost heat limits? Is it 4 for Heavy medium lasers?



In other words just don't use them because the enemy can just twist them off as long as they aren't a super potato? Cool, great addition to the game.

If you are good enough, you are still dealing more damage per ton than with other lasers, even if you spread it over the target.
It's a trade-off for high damage.
And it does not make the other laser classes obolete.

[Andi Nagasia]

PGI has a set Damage per Tic for all laser weapons as of Last Patch,

Small Lasers(Normal and ER) = 1Damage for every 0.22Sec
Medium Lasers(Normal and ER) = 1Damage for every 0.16Sec
Large Lasers(Normal and ER) = 1Damage for every 0.12Sec

this is why their Durations seem so high,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 28 June 2017 - 02:33 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Reno Blade, on 28 June 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

If you are good enough, you are still dealing more damage per ton than with other lasers, even if you spread it over the target.
It's a trade-off for high damage.
And it does not make the other laser classes obolete.

No matter how good you are if your target rolls the damage you just wasted a bunch of heat and face time.

[shameless]

they're fine save burn duration.

[Deathpig]

Of course it doesn't make *other* laser classes obsolete, because THEY are obsolete. That's an absurd argument.

If you band your two options by ghost heat (6x ERMed vs. 4x HML), then the ER Meds do 2 more damage per volley, more often, over greater range, with less face time, and for 2 crit spaces less for the cost of 2 tons and 4 heat (per volley).

Except the ER Meds ALREADY exist, so what we're getting is a clearly inferior option.

[Gas Guzzler]

Deathpig, on 28 June 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

4x HML

The Ghost heat limit on heavy mediums is 4? Ughhh so bad.

[Agent1190]

The Ghost heat needs to normalize to 6 for the Medium/Small class and 2 for the Large class. The heat, range and duration already counter balance the damage.