AngrySpartan, on 30 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:
ATMs (without minimum) can deal more damage than SRMs? On paper - yes. In the field, hell no.
1. You'll barely will be able to match the SRM DPS with ATMs. e.g Mad Dog - 6 SRM6+A (that SRM boat you think can't work at it's optimal range) - 72 alpha every 4 seconds. ATMs (4ATM6+2ATM3) - 90 alpha every 5 seconds.
Did I say the Mad Dog was one of those mechs that couldn't? No, stop assuming things. The Mad Dog has one of the best convergences with regards to SRMs that probably rivals the ASN-23 and GRF-3M. That said, many of the other SRM boats including one of the old typical brawlers the SRMmoner have terrible convergence and thus are very hard to use at a longer range (let alone at short on some occasions).
AngrySpartan, on 30 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:
2. There is damage and there is effective damage. 36 SRMs hitting single side torso is scary.
Very rarely will you see let alone use a mech that can plant 36 SRMs into a single side torso. The Mad Dog is probably the only one and it is too fragile to realistically use.
AngrySpartan, on 30 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:
3. Closing the distance with SRMs isn't difficult at all. It's difficult to take down more than a single mech with you though.
Maybe in PUG queue, but in an environment where people are equally coordinated? Naw, Dual Gauss/Dual ERPPC Night Gyrs, MAD-IIC/SVN/WHK spam can stop brawls dead in their tracks, I mean even mid-range pushes have trouble on maps, and you think SRMs are gonna be better? Lol please.
AngrySpartan, on 30 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:
4. Center mass, center mass, etc. Just go and kill assault mech solo with LRMs. Than get back here and say how much ammo has you spend? ATMs do more damage but they have twice less ammo than LRMs, so again - you don't want to waste them when they do only 1 or 2 damage.
Depends on the assault. Don't get me wrong, LRMs are still not the most efficient weapon for doing effective damage, but then again, dakka boats didn't use to be either, but they pumped out SO much damage, that they overcame all that.
AngrySpartan, on 30 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:
BTW. SFE Griffin 3M and Centurions says hello! And IS has LFE now.
Both of those are bad. Again, sword and board died a long time ago, just because the IS has LFE doesn't make them suddenly good (especially the GRF-3M which has to run a STD still to run 4 ASRM6). SRM brawling is still pretty dead, the killing of cSPLs didn't bring it back.
davoodoo, on 30 June 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:
However on brawling mechs which will get within 300m ac20 is far superior, way less facetime damage focused on place, heaven.
Kgc with 4 uac5 is fire support mech, while atlas with 1 ac20 and 4 srm6 is brawler both are decent builds.
The AC20 is a pretty crappy brawling weapon, the reason the Atlas runs it is because it does two things:
- Avoids ghost heat.
- The Atlas can't mount another battery of ASRM6s.