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[LennStar]

I tested it on the Kit Fox with 3 LAMS.

Incoming volley of ATMs - all killed. Nice!

But then more came.

They powered me down. I could not move (or try to disable the LAMS because I was down one second after powering up) for a whole minute just by providing their cover to teammates.

That is with 4 Mechs on the field and only ATM.

Have 2 or more LRM users and you can't use even a single LAMS because it gets too hot.

Maybe try with 3 heat again.

The saved half ton (or full ton if you do rain cover duty in Kit Fox) compared to ammo is really not worth the 5 heat.


Another possibility would be to not allow LAMS to fire if you are above 90% so to not power you down.

Which should be implemented anyway.

[Blackhound]

LennStar, on 29 June 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

Another possibility would be to not allow LAMS to fire if you are above 90% so to not power you down.

When not Overridden that's a fantastic idea.

But when I saw the announcement of the heat values I facepalmed because I knew it meant L-AMS was useless. If you think that's bad, IS ones generate even more heat.

[LennStar]

Blackhound, on 29 June 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

When not Overridden that's a fantastic idea.

But when I saw the announcement of the heat values I facepalmed because I knew it meant L-AMS was useless. If you think that's bad, IS ones generate even more heat.

still better then IS ammo ones not working at all

[Nesutizale]

Had the same result with a friends in his 3 LAMS Kitfox and me in a Shadowhawk with 3MRM10. Just firing the MRMs in his general direction made him shut down

Personaly I like the idea of the LAMS shutting down as soon as you hit 90% heat is a good idea.,

[Lynxx]

They are not playable with 4 heat atm.

I would rework them:
Set heat to 1 but each l-ams reduces the heat capacity of the mech by 4 or 5.
So the l-ams needs the heat capacity to run and produces a little heat while firing.

Or, reduce the heat to 1 maybe 2 but give them a run-time like the new Rac. So they get hot while firing and need to cool down befor they can fire again.

[Cy Mitchell]

You can turn the AMS off with the ~ key to avoid overheating but yes a heat reduction to 2 or 3 would be nice. I will stick with the regular AMS if using more than one unless mounted on a ballistic boat. Putting 3 L AMS on anything for 12 heat is a no go.

[Kaptain]

I'm glad that LAMS was not implemented in a way that would completely negate LRMS and ATMs but this is a bit ridiculous. Heat reduction needed.

[Evgenyd92]

Agreed, it's too hot. And IS LAMS have the same weight (1,5 tons) and occupied 2 slots, like AMS with ton of ammo. No reasonble, same weight, same slots, but much hotter.

Edited by Evgenyd92, 29 June 2017 - 11:31 PM.

[50 50]

Hmm... not sure.
When using multiples, the Laser AMS is a sure fire way to heat up the mech.
It may be that it needs a small heat reduction in the base stats.
It could be that having an 'auto cut off' for it might be the way to go.
Otherwise we do have the option to manually disengage the AMS.
There is also nothing stopping us from mixing the ballistic and laser variants where there is something to be said for still being able to provide some AMS protection after the other systems have run out of ammo.

On a slightly different note, why are the AMS systems not affected by the skills in the weapon tree?

[LennStar]

50 50, on 29 June 2017 - 11:54 PM, said:

On a slightly different note, why are the AMS systems not affected by the skills in the weapon tree?

Because it is not a weapon? And they have their own nodes in operation.

[Guile Votoms]

Laser AMS is fine.

If you build up too much heat just get more heatsinks, cool run and coolshots.
Or simply disable your AMS for a while.

It's not supposed to be a replacement for regular AMS but an alternative.

Edited by Guile Votoms, 30 June 2017 - 02:40 AM.

[davoodoo]

in tt lams should do 7 heat for is, which should be negated by 4 dhs, but this is mwo where dhs are working at less than half efficiency they should and no adjustments were made.

Again just disable 4 dhs(3 for clans) when lams is enabled and it doesnt produce heat.

Edited by davoodoo, 30 June 2017 - 03:13 AM.