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[JC Daxion]

I was thinking about this last night. (pondering adder builds) and it got me thinking, Why isn't there a UAC15? Seams like it would be the perfect weapon on that lower middle weight class.. aka 35-45 tons.


Is there some lore thing why? It goes 2, 5, 10, 20, seams like an odd place to jump is all.

[Y E O N N E]

I mean, there's no 3-ton laser, either. How awesome would it have been to have a 3-ton laser dealing, I dunno, 7 damage at 360 meters to slot in between standard MedLas and standard LargeLas?

[LORD ORION]

JC Daxion, on 02 July 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

I was thinking about this last night. (pondering adder builds) and it got me thinking, Why isn't there a UAC15? Seams like it would be the perfect weapon on that lower middle weight class.. aka 35-45 tons.


Is there some lore thing why? It goes 2, 5, 10, 20, seams like an odd place to jump is all.

Because Gauss is the AC15?

[Shifty McSwift]

Didn't it seem weirder that there's a 2 in there among all those multiples of 5?

[Battlemaster56]

Well we could ask for proto AC's but it only go for 2/4/8 but still it's an AC no matter what.

[FupDup]

Yeonne Greene, on 02 July 2017 - 09:55 AM, said:

I mean, there's no 3-ton laser, either. How awesome would it have been to have a 3-ton laser dealing, I dunno, 7 damage at 360 meters to slot in between standard MedLas and standard LargeLas?

I've seen some people have house rules in TT where they made up their own non-canon "Intermediate Laser" for that sort of function.
http://www.sarna.net...ermediate_Laser

Weight: 2
Damage: 7
Heat: 6
Range: 360m

Direct downgrade to the Clan ERML and maybe even the IS ERML though.


Personally, the non-canon weapon I'd like to see is the Clan Light ERPPC. It would be PPFLD in such a tiny and cute little package (2 tons 1 slot?). <3

Or an Inner Sphere Light AC/10.

Edited by FupDup, 02 July 2017 - 10:22 AM.

[Paigan]

I don't think the gap between ac10 and 20 is relevantly big.
But there are indeed some weird gaps in (original) BT. Some are filled by 3058 tech, some are not.
- light and medium gauss and PPCs (don't really need those any bigger, but SMALLER)
- one or more ballistic weapons in the range of 1 to 4 tons (like small rotary ACs or howitzers or so)
- lasers around 3 tons

That's just one of many indicators that BT is actually based on a really weird, half-baked, botched set of rules and concepts.
PGI's modifications make it more less bearable, but it's still pretty weird.
And it can't be fixed properly (aka torn apart and redone properly), because the zealots would then go ballistic.
(pun intended)

Edited by Paigan, 02 July 2017 - 10:26 AM.

[Y E O N N E]

FupDup, on 02 July 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Personally, the non-canon weapon I'd like to see is the Clan Light ERPPC. It would be PPFLD in such a tiny and cute little package (2 tons 1 slot?). <3

Or an Inner Sphere Light AC/10.

How much would a Light AC/10 weigh, 8 tons? Because a pair of LAC/5 is already lighter than an AC/10.

I can see it now: cER LPPC dealing 4 PPFLD and 3 splash.

[evilauthor]

Doesn't the Light PPC sorta fill in the "3 ton energy weapon" slot?

And yes, there really ought to have been ballistic weapons that filled in the gap between the half ton machine gun and the six ton AC/2. In TT, I think the Light AC/2 (4 tons) and Light AC/5 (5 tons) were eventually made to do this, but they're still a bit on the heavy side.

Honestly, there should realistically be a wider variety of weapons than their actually are.

I'm still waiting on SRMs with tube counts higher than 6 that AREN'T Multi-Missile Launchers.

[FupDup]

A Clan Heavy ERPPC would be ridiculous...

Wait, no, Rotary AC/20!

[Y E O N N E]

FupDup, on 02 July 2017 - 10:39 AM, said:

A Clan Heavy ERPPC would be ridiculous...

Wait, no, Rotary AC/20!

Didn't one of the 'Mech games have RAC/10s and such?

[FupDup]

Yeonne Greene, on 02 July 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

Didn't one of the 'Mech games have RAC/10s and such?

MekTek's MekPak updates for MW4 had RAC/10s and RAC/20s.

[Battlemaster56]

Yeonne Greene, on 02 July 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

Didn't one of the 'Mech games have RAC/10s and such?

MW4 Mercs had RAC/AC 10 and 20's for both sides. Interesting but they will extremely heavy and clans will be very slot inefficient. But still interesting no the less.

[JC Daxion]

LORD ORION, on 02 July 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

Because Gauss is the AC15?

Ok.... but man do i suck with a gauss!



(best responce)



But really is there a lore thing? and yea.. i think i will try a clan light gauss...


I wish they would get rid of the whole charge up crap, and make a gauss a single shot weapon, cool down of 1 sec before you can fire anything

[Brain Cancer]

JC Daxion, on 02 July 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

I was thinking about this last night. (pondering adder builds) and it got me thinking, Why isn't there a UAC15? Seams like it would be the perfect weapon on that lower middle weight class.. aka 35-45 tons.

Is there some lore thing why? It goes 2, 5, 10, 20, seams like an odd place to jump is all.

Probably because it'd get to a ridiculous number of weapon options, and the Gauss rifle already exists.

That being said, you'll eventually see IS-style autocannons for the Clans, namely the (P)AC.

http://www.sarna.net...ch_Autocannon/2
http://www.sarna.net...ch_Autocannon/4
http://www.sarna.net...ch_Autocannon/8

They're short range guns, but a dual PAC/8 would be an interesting light ballistic option.