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[CK16]

Look at Patch notes, RIP but long live the Mk II!

[Composite Armour]

A time for great celebration!

[Y E O N N E]

I don't hate this. Will be interested to see how it plays out, especially with HPPCs being properly powered and properly hot.

[Andi Nagasia]

HPPCs(assuming full 15Damage) are ganna be great,

IS-ERPPC Velocity Buff will help as well, wondering if instead of seeing GaussX2 we will start seeing Gauss + ERPPC?
as both go about the same Speed now, and are linked Head wise it may become an interesting combo,


still un sure about LBX 20 being 11 Slots still, not sure how it will be used,
also it seems they reduced the Ammo/Ton to 7(same as other AC20s) as it(&C-LBX20) were 10Ammo/Ton in the PTS,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 14 July 2017 - 08:05 PM.

[El Bandito]

CK16, on 14 July 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Look at Patch notes, RIP but long live the Mk II!

Good! And I say that as a MCII owner, cause too much PPFLD is bad news for game balance.

[Monkey Lover]

Ok i will start it, Laser vomit op please nerf.

[Kaeb Odellas]

Whoa! I did not expect that!

Still, I wish we had a better alpha limiting mechanic than stupid ghost heat...

[Vxheous]

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Edited by Andi Nagasia, 31 July 2017 - 08:52 AM.
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[Shadowomega1]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 14 July 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

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Well maybe this will lead to certain mechs getting buffed after they were nerfed cause this one build made them look op, in certain situations.

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 31 July 2017 - 08:52 AM.
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[Battlemaster56]

Welp gotta see how badly this hurt my sniper mechs, and if I have to fully repsec them to a new role.

[Monkey Lover]

Really its not going to change much. You just fire the ppc half second later. The whole reason you use gauss+ppc was due to heat.

If you can aim its not going to matter all that much. It will still be used.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 14 July 2017 - 08:27 PM.

[Vxheous]

Shadowomega1, on 14 July 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

Well maybe this will lead to certain mechs getting buffed after they were nerfed cause this one build made them look op, in certain situations.

wishful thinking, since PGI's track record is once they nerf, it takes over a year (if ever, see Victor) to undo

[RestosIII]

Well, if it actually does what they're trying to do...

[Khobai]

Well im happy. Ive been asking for them to link Gauss and PPC in the same ghost heat group for months.

Because that change doesnt prevent you from using Gauss and PPCs together. It just forces you to fire them half a second apart. Which significantly increases the chance of them hitting different locations against a moving/torso twisting mech.

Now all they have to do is unnerf the torso twisting of assault mechs.

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Potatoes finally got their wish

Yep and im glad youre salty about it because salt is good on potatos.

Edited by Khobai, 14 July 2017 - 08:30 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Khobai, on 14 July 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Because that change doesnt prevent you from using Gauss and PPCs together. It just forces you to fire them half a second apart. Which significantly increases the chance of them hitting different locations against a moving/torso twisting mech.

DPPSFLD FTW!!



(Diffused Pin-Point Somewhat Front-Loaded Damage)

[Snowbluff]

CK16, on 14 July 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Look at Patch notes, RIP but long live the Mk II!

Would it have been so hard to just quote it? I had to dig through the notes for 2 lines of text.

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Inner Sphere and Clan Standard Gauss Rifle
• Heat Penalty group is now linked with PPC.

I don't knwo how the heat penalty is working for IS PPCs, but it looks like the IS will have significantly better ways of avoiding the penalty on PPFLD.

Edited by Snowbluff, 14 July 2017 - 08:35 PM.

[Vxheous]

Khobai, on 14 July 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Well im happy. Ive been asking for them to link Gauss and PPC in the same ghost heat group for months.

Because that change doesnt prevent you from using Gauss and PPCs together. It just forces you to fire them half a second apart. Which significantly increases the chance of them hitting different locations against a moving/torso twisting mech.

Now all they have to do is unnerf the torso twisting of assault mechs.



Yep and im glad youre salty about it because salt is good on potatos.

Nah, I'm not salty, I can always run dual Gauss + 4-6CERML and still make potato salad. Considering Laser vomit is better right now anyhow, it doesn't really matter

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 14 July 2017 - 08:38 PM.

[Khobai]

Prosperity Park, on 14 July 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

DPPSFLD FTW!!



(Diffused Pin-Point Somewhat Front-Loaded Damage)

Serial Pinpoint Tandem Frontloaded Damage?

But yeah were definitely gonna need a new name for it

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Considering Laser vomit is better right now anyhow, it doesn't really matter

The next thing im gonna ask for is all lasers to be placed in the same ghost heat group.

Edited by Khobai, 14 July 2017 - 08:40 PM.

[Requiemking]

Khobai, on 14 July 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Now all they have to do is unnerf the torso twisting of assault mechs.

No. That nerf was part of the anti-fat ballerinas countermeasures, and it must remain until one of the following conditions are met:

1) Lights are buffed to be able to effectively fight and earn big scores alongside their larger brethren,
or,
2) The rewards system is changed to properly reward mechs for providing non-combat support, such as recon and capping.

[Kaptain]

Andi Nagasia, on 14 July 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

still un sure about LBX 20 being 11 Slots still, not sure how it will be used,

It wont be. We can only hope that our cries are being ignored because there is a top secret effort to implement crit splitting and ammo changing in the future.

Edited by Kaptain, 14 July 2017 - 09:06 PM.