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[BloodKnight101]

Could some one please help me out here. I read the patch notes and realized they added ways for the IS to get to the clan homeworlds, but haven't changed the FP dynamic to include the civil war. I am under the impression that the clans are still able to march toward Terra despite the truce.

Is it too hard to create scenarios in which the clans can only get in lore related kerfuffles and have the major focus on the Davion/Steiner fued.

If most of the player base wants this I am okay with it, but I know that there are a bunch of lorewarriors and am curious as to how they feel. Also if I am completely wrong let me know, I did really only skim after a read the clan win condition.

[Andi Nagasia]

i think its more Civil war as due to the TimeLine and New Tech Being added,
as well as the Up and Coming feature that allows IS v IS and Clan v Clan FP fights,

[Scout Derek]

Well, let's take into consideration over the years as to what happened in Faction Play, which takes place in this universe, which is MechWarrior Online;

• 3 Turkayid battles took place; Clans won every battle
  
• The Clans have, many times and time again, pushed into the sphere so far that they literally surrounded Terra.
  
• PGI has yet to initiate future battles/events, such as operation bulldog, etc.

Civil War only begins after Operation Bulldog, which... still has yet to happen..

[BlueFlames]

PGI lacks the technical aptitude and imagination to add that (or any) level of depth to community warfare.

[Bishop Steiner]

What...are you implying there may be gaps in the understanding of events in Battletech among those taking the lead?

What do you mean the Civil War didn't take place on Huntress in 3057 with Jihad era weapons and Mechs??????

Well, in their Defense, I reckon, Russ said what...2 years ago now? Alternate timeline. Think Flashpoint.... or some Harry Turtledove novels. (or if history was being written by Picasso's half blind third cousin, on LSD)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 July 2017 - 06:18 PM.

[Novakaine]

Twenty-eight Artists and 2 Programmers.

[Sjorpha]

Yes It's a shame that they aren't orchestrating the actual civil war in faction play, that seems like (another) huge missed opportunity.

Actually it's kind of absolutely ridiculous.

"Hey CIVIL WAR update is coming out this date! Hype! Hype! HYPE!"

...

"Oh, by the way there won't be any civil war in the civil war update, no idea what gave you that impression?"

[Magnus Santini]

I think they still might do it, but it is probably a lot of thinking needed to make it happen in a way everyone will like.

[BloodKnight101]

I hear both sides of this, alternative time line and not lore. I get that because of the nature of the game it is hard to "recreate" lore battles. What I don't understand is why they would put out specific material that hypes the fedcom civil war and then do nothing to create the civil war in FP.

Why not do mixed teams and split the population into Steiner and Davion backed groups. I just see no point in calling it the civil war update if there isn't going to be an IS civil war. They should have just called it the 3067 update and not referenced fedcom cw at all. I guess I'll probably just stick to QP because I'm not getting CDS or an actual civil war to partake in. FW isn't going to be fun because there won't be enough clan players to get a match, IS got all of the new toys so everyone is going to be playing IS.

Sad Panda is Sad

Edited by BloodKnight101, 16 July 2017 - 07:05 PM.

[Imperius]

I told you all 1.5 years ago when I was on the MK II rant the timeline didn't matter.

[Angel of Annihilation]

BloodKnight101, on 16 July 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

I hear both sides of this, alternative time line and not lore. I get that because of the nature of the game it is hard to "recreate" lore battles. What I don't understand is why they would put out specific material that hypes the fedcom civil war and then do nothing to create the civil war in FP.

Why not do mixed teams and split the population into Steiner and Davion backed groups. I just see no point in calling it the civil war update if there isn't going to be an IS civil war. They should have just called it the 3067 update and not referenced fedcom cw at all. I guess I'll probably just stick to QP because I'm not getting CDS or an actual civil war to partake in. FW isn't going to be fun because there won't be enough clan players to get a match, IS got all of the new toys so everyone is going to be playing IS.

Sad Panda is Sad

The Civil War opens up a huge opportunity to mix up Clans and IS. For one, you have Wolf-in-Exile fighting for the IS, then you have Jade Falcon attacking Wolf and Wolf-in-Exile. Also the Nova Cats had defected to the IS as well and were fighting Clans. Then if I am not mistaken the Clan were doing alot of infighting as well. Then you had Sun Tzu gooble up the St. Ives Compact (IS vs IS) plus well the Fedcom Civil War which had Davion pitted against Steiner. Oh didn't some Davion troops kind of sort of rebel and attack the Draconis Combine as well?

Point in the Civil War period you could add in a few factions and easily make Faction Play more dynamic by allowing Clan players to choose to join Wolf-in-Exile or Nova Cat and fight for the Inner Spear.

Actually to simplify things I would do this for FP.

Clanners could join either Wolf or Wolf-in-Exile for Faction Play. IS could join either Steiner or Davion for Faction Play. Then let Davion team up with Wolf-in-Exile and then let Steiner team up with Wolf. I know it leave out alot of peoples favorite Clans but just make it a seasonal thing that runs for 6 months or so then focus on something else.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 16 July 2017 - 07:57 PM.

[RestosIII]

Viktor Drake, on 16 July 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

I know it leave out alot of peoples favorite Clans but just make it a seasonal thing that runs for 6 months or so then focus on something else.

6 months of no Clan Diamond Shark? No thank you. I wanna be gnawing at the other Clans while we're in full Warden mode, TBH.

[Imperius]

RestosIII, on 16 July 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

6 months of no Clan Diamond Shark? No thank you. I wanna be gnawing at the other Clans while we're in full Warden mode, TBH.

I'd like to be able to grind my faction out before mw5 since MWO seems to be on the outs. Unless I hear them talk about an engine update.

[Deathlike]

There is no infighting because CW/FP is currently designed to prevent that.

Best irony is reality.

[RaptorRage]

There really should be some sort of clarifying post as to why this page is showing the whole point of the update was the 3062-3067 FedCom Civil War with the tech and Mechs specifically chosen to be released to reflect that, and the patch notes are suddenly saying it's 3057 instead.

https://mwomercs.com/civil-war-update

[Kaptain]

RaptorRage, on 16 July 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

There really should be some sort of clarifying post as to why this page is showing the whole point of the update was the 3062-3067 FedCom Civil War with the tech and Mechs specifically chosen to be released to reflect that, and the patch notes are suddenly saying it's 3057 instead.

https://mwomercs.com/civil-war-update

x2

[Mystere]

Andi Nagasia, on 16 July 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

i think its more Civil war as due to the TimeLine and New Tech Being added,
as well as the Up and Coming feature that allows IS v IS and Clan v Clan FP fights,

When, in 2019?

Edited by Mystere, 16 July 2017 - 09:31 PM.

[Mystere]

BloodKnight101, on 16 July 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

I hear both sides of this, alternative time line and not lore. I get that because of the nature of the game it is hard to "recreate" lore battles. What I don't understand is why they would put out specific material that hypes the fedcom civil war and then do nothing to create the civil war in FP.

What other reason could they possibly have other than to sell more Mech packs?

[Andi Nagasia]

Mystere, on 16 July 2017 - 09:31 PM, said:

When, in 2019?

Nope, August,

InnerSphereNews, on 02 June 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

Faction Play Updates
Special Event system
War History
and more

Clan Wave 2 & 3 Hero 'Mechs (Store Page)

Additional Clan Wave 2 & 3 C-Bill Variants

Later in August:
MWO World Championship Tournament Build
Semi-Finals

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 16 July 2017 - 09:35 PM.

[Mystere]

Andi Nagasia, on 16 July 2017 - 09:35 PM, said:

Nope, August,

You're either a very optimistic person or someone wanting to buy that bridge I have to sell.

Edited by Mystere, 16 July 2017 - 09:38 PM.