54 replies to this topic

[CaptainTeem0]

Firstly I was about "let's nerf those friggin MG's" but, than I think, how many time I died from them? 2-4 in a whole month. Kek. Not asolid reason for "nerf call", but then... who mostly use over-DPS weapons and stay intact? Lights. So, it's agenda against lights. No fair IMO. So what is it...
Agenda against a complex, over-DPS weapons on extremely fast platforms to nerf their "intact" part.
Than comes a question: - How to "nerf" the complex "fo-sho"? Many ways, but most solid is: - UNLEASH THE FIRE POWER.
How to do that? REMOVE THE GHOSTHEAT - TOTALY. From all weapons, any linkage and etc. Just delete GH like it never was.

So... the AGENDA IS ABOUT: - DELETE THE GHOSTHEAT!

Edited by CaptainTeem0, 10 September 2017 - 11:34 AM.

[Mcgral18]

No

[CaptainTeem0]

Mcgral18, on 10 September 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

No

Did I asked ya? No.

[Mcgral18]

CaptainTeem0, on 10 September 2017 - 11:41 AM, said:

Did I asked ya? No.

Too bad, you're gonna have to deal with it



While GH is a terrible way to go about it, not having it would cause certain balance issues
Alternative solutions (ideally, HB's TC which was butchered as GH Mk2) would certainly be preferable, but they aren't viable under PGI's design team



It stops certain deathstars from existing...while forcing others to be created. HLL+ERML as an example, instead of just many ERLLs or LPLs, to maximize alpha with similar (instead of identical) weapon profiles



Some items make no sense, like isMPLs Opportunity Cost, or isAC20s compared to the aforementioned ERMLs+HLLs (you know, DOUBLE the firepower at twice the range), but the gameplay wouldn't improve with the removal of GH (as opposed to the replacement with a more reasonable system)

[Khobai]

ghost heat is bad

but we need something

and unfortunately ghost heat is all we got

cant just remove it without something better to replace it

[CaptainTeem0]

Mcgral18, on 10 September 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

Too bad, you're gonna have to deal with it

You are wrong again. I don't.

Khobai, on 10 September 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

ghost heat is bad

but we need something

and unfortunately ghost heat is all we got

cant just remove it without something better to replace it

Do we realy need to replace GH? Are we?

[Spheroid]

I don't think you are going to have much fun in an environment of massed PPCs and heavy lasers. Think very carefully about what you are proposing.

I recommend no change to current meta.

[Asym]

I'm with the OP: remove all of the Balance, Nerf, Patches, Updates and whatever else limites our mechs and give us back the best form of our mechs perfomance, agility and their associated weapons systems.

De-evolution is the solution to compounded errors.......

[GA1NAX]

I give my vote for OP. GH is outdated. Meta must be destroyed.

[Mcgral18]

GA1NAX, on 10 September 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

I give my vote for OP. GH is outdated. Meta must be destroyed.

...lol


You think GH creates Meta?

There would be far more powerful builds created with the removal of GH, making those builds superior "Meta" builds

[Deathlike]

Every single time I read this, I wonder if the OP has experienced what a no ghost heat system looked like in Beta.

It was glorious, but seeing PPC+Gauss become the only real option... well, enjoy your indirectly lowered TTK.

[Antares102]

CaptainTeem0, on 10 September 2017 - 11:28 AM, said:

So... the AGENDA IS ABOUT: - DELETE THE GHOSTHEAT!

The first one who would complain about constantly being killed by 4x CERPPC from 800 meters or by a > 100 alpha around the corner would be you.
While I agree that GH is not great and could/should be replaced by a better mechanic it is required to at least tone down the weirdest sh|t in this game.

CaptainTeem0, on 10 September 2017 - 11:41 AM, said:

Did I asked ya? No.

Yes you did, you created a public thread on a public forum. You effectively asked everybody for their opinion.

[Ruar]

Energy draw would make so much more sense than ghost heat.

[Mcgral18]

Ruar, on 10 September 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

Energy draw would make so much more sense than ghost heat.

An Energy Draw which isn't GH Mk2

[Y E O N N E]

GA1NAX, on 10 September 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

I give my vote for OP. GH is outdated. Meta must be destroyed.

Meta cannot be destroyed.

[Deathlike]

Yeonne Greene, on 10 September 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

Meta cannot be destroyed.

It is simply reborn in another form.

[MechaBattler]

Energy draw! Come on guys! It totes works!

[Asym]

Deathlike, on 10 September 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

It is simply reborn in another form.

YES ! Oh please, YES !

Why? Because the dynamics of the game would change.... Life out there would be a stone cold ditch and what could be seen could be hit, and, what could be hit could be killed..... No more wandering out in the open.... No more ridge engagements because they'd be 100% fatal. No more mechs attempting to hug each other because that'd last <10 seconds. OH, it'd be a tactical mess till people figured out how to use cover and concealment.....

GH? Naw...... We use make believe science anyway..... See it, hit it, kill it and let the chips fall where they may.....

Edited by Asym, 10 September 2017 - 05:26 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Asym, on 10 September 2017 - 05:24 PM, said:

OH, it'd be a tactical mess till people figured out how to use cover and concealment.....

We have 72-94-point blasts waiting over every ridge now coming from a single 'Mech. You talk like this isn't already the reality of the game. Please, without any condescending tone here, go watch some competitive games.

[SeventhSL]

I played in a time where MWO had no ghost heat. Believe me you really don't want to go back there, espesically now there is clan mechs in the game.