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[MadHornet]

From replying to and viewing this thread, it seems making a reasonable and non-aggressive paragraph is the least popular option.

[AncientRaig]

It tends to annoy me if the match is a stomp and somebody pops a GG the second the last mech dies. It can feel a little insulting to see that instant GG after a roll, much in the same way people get annoyed when people say GG early in Starcraft right before they roll over your base or whatever. Speaking from personal experience, neither side of a stomp is fun because the winners are having to scramble for damage (god forbid you're on the wrong flank in a slower mech) and the losers are just getting slaughtered.

[Wil McCullough]

i say it every game when i remember to. it's the handshake after the match.

you guys are kinda over-thinking it imo.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wil McCullough, on 20 July 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

i say it every game when i remember to. it's the handshake after the match.

you guys are kinda over-thinking it imo.

YOUR OFFERING TO SHAKE MY HAND AFTER YOU BEAT ME IS PATRONIZING AND INSULTING!!!!!!!!!

*apparently the mindset of the modern gamer*

[zeves]

clearly we were lacking in **** to ***** about today.

[Ghostryder]

With full acknowledgement that trolls DO exist, for anyone who encounters us, a "gg/GG" simply means thanks for playing. No malice intended, whether it was a win or loss. A 'gg wp' with or without caps means the individual typing it learned something.

Being offended by those simple letters is tantamount to not receiving a participation trophy. Deal with it, and realize that there are units and individual players who are not caught up in placing their self worth in a friggin game. Play it and have fun with a mindset of mutual respect, like gamers are SUPPOSED to do, and either quit with the butt hurt rhetoric, or find some game you can dominate in and lord over less experienced players

[Xmith]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 July 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

YOUR OFFERING TO SHAKE MY HAND AFTER YOU BEAT ME IS PATRONIZING AND INSULTING!!!!!!!!!

*apparently the mindset of the modern gamer*

Not necessarily the mindset of the modern gamer. It's a mindset of those that play any type of competitive game. Baseball, football, soccer, tennis, MWO you name it. It's what you do, win or lose. I tend to question those that can't understand this.

Let's face it, MWO is an e-sport game for amateurs and pros.

Only sore losers think gg/GG is patronizing and insulting.

[Bishop Steiner]

Xmith, on 20 July 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

Not necessarily the mindset of the modern gamer. It's a mindset of those that play any type of competitive game. Baseball, football, soccer, tennis, MWO you name it. It's what you do, win or lose. I tend to question those that can't understand this.

Let's face it, MWO is an e-sport game for amateurs and pros.

Only sore losers think gg/GG is patronizing and insulting.

kind of the point of my post?

[Skipmagnet]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 July 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

more importantly... how people can project their own context into something that is essentially without context to begin with, then get triggered about it.

Isn't the game that came before the gg part of the context?

[Xmith]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 July 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

kind of the point of my post?

yep

[Bishop Steiner]

eyeballs, on 20 July 2017 - 08:50 PM, said:

Isn't the game that came before the gg part of the context?

So you know what my feelings or meaning are because you may or may not have sucked? Awesome that. You should work for the police, solve a bunch of murders reading peoples motivations like that.

Those Sports Matches where people still shake hands and such after? Are context also...and they still man up. But hey, of course you know exactly what my motivations are.

[Khobai]

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Being offended by those simple letters is tantamount to not receiving a participation trophy.

except you do get a participation trophy, the amount of cbills the losers get compared to the winners is still rather generous

so its like getting a participation trophy and still being offended for some reason lol

its an entitlement issue, those people expect to win every game, and just have the wins handed to them. when I played sports as kid, I didnt get a trophy for losing, losing felt bad and it should because youre a !@#4ing loser. try harder next time loser.

Edited by Khobai, 20 July 2017 - 10:12 PM.

[Skipmagnet]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 July 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

So you know what my feelings or meaning are because you may or may not have sucked? Awesome that. You should work for the police, solve a bunch of murders reading peoples motivations like that.

Those Sports Matches where people still shake hands and such after? Are context also...and they still man up. But hey, of course you know exactly what my motivations are.

I am having trouble following your examples as they relate to my question. Does context matter?

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

vandalhooch, on 20 July 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

that says everything we need to know about you.

Why don't you grow a spine and say what you mean instead of hiding behind ambiguous personal attacks Mr. Sportsmanship? I'm curious to know what a person like yourself actually "knows" about anything...

For instance.. what do you actually know about my relationships with people? I don't "GG" my friends because applying rigid, formal codes of behavior to informal recreation with people that I'm very close to would be socially obtuse. I hope you don't hide behind some veneer of civility or "sportsmanship" with people that you're actually emotionally close to.

...Just like how conventions that apply to professional sports aren't necessarily applicable to informal "competition" or play. It's a different level of proximity between participants and fundamentally different frameworks. Suggesting they're all the same is stupid.

Consider for a moment that you don't seem to understand how people relate to one another as well as you think you do.

Edited by Aggravated Assault Mech, 20 July 2017 - 11:23 PM.

[The Mysterious Fox]

is this thread still going on?

kthxbai

[vandalhooch]

Aggravated Assault Mech, on 20 July 2017 - 11:09 PM, said:

Why don't you grow a spine and say what you mean instead of hiding behind ambiguous personal attacks Mr. Sportsmanship? I'm curious to know what a person like yourself actually "knows" about anything...

Why do I have to say anything? You've already said it about yourself.

You think if someone says "good game" to you when you lose that they are shaming you.

You think other humans who are also stuck in traffic are competing with you.

You think sportsmanship is only necessary when you are being paid to play.

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For instance.. what do you actually know about my relationships with people? I don't "GG" my friends because applying rigid, formal codes of behavior to informal recreation with people that I'm very close to would be socially obtuse.

I'm pretty sure that you engage in some social interaction with your friends at the end of a competition to acknowledge its conclusion. It may not be the same interaction used between relative strangers but you do something.

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I hope you don't hide behind some veneer of civility or "sportsmanship" with people that you're actually emotionally close to.

...Just like how conventions that apply to professional sports aren't necessarily applicable to informal "competition" or play. It's a different level of proximity between participants and fundamentally different frameworks. Suggesting they're all the same is stupid.

Human-human competition is human-human competition. There will be some sort of social system around that fact. Since this game is also a human-human competition between absolute strangers, what social convention do you suggest?

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Consider for a moment that you don't seem to understand how people relate to one another as well as you think you do.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

vandalhooch, on 20 July 2017 - 11:34 PM, said:

Why do I have to say anything? You've already said it about yourself.

You think if someone says "good game" to you when you lose that they are shaming you.

You think other humans who are also stuck in traffic are competing with you.

You think sportsmanship is only necessary when you are being paid to play.



I'm pretty sure that you engage in some social interaction with your friends at the end of a competition to acknowledge its conclusion. It may not be the same interaction used between relative strangers but you do something.



Human-human competition is human-human competition. There will be some sort of social system around that fact. Since this game is also a human-human competition between absolute strangers, what social convention do you suggest?



Pot, meet kettle.

Nice circular logic.

"gg"

[Navid A1]

GG means Git Gud

so.... git gud yourself and tell others to git gud as well!

/thread

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 July 2017 - 12:53 AM, said:

*triggered*

And yet here you are, provoked into posting inane ********.

Are you being ironic?

[Yellonet]

The Mysterious Fox, on 20 July 2017 - 11:17 PM, said:

is this thread still going on?

kthxbai

Well, two strong and opposite views have been clearly laid out and neither side is backing down because these views are a fundamental part of ones psyche.

Some feel that saying "gg" after winning 12-0 is completely fine and it's the fault and problem of anyone who would take it in a negative way.

Some feel that saying "gg" after winning 12-0 is very likely to be interpreted in a negative way because the context is not a good game but a stomp and as such may well give rise to negative feelings/hostility toward other players and toward the game.