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#21 FupDup

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:05 AM

View PostJadePanther, on 20 July 2017 - 08:10 AM, said:

rewind a few years to the great third person forum burning.. or the MWO reddit debacle... theres some negativity

Don't forget about ECM, Consumables, Ghost Heat...

This forum has seen a whole lot of dumpster fires. Pepperridge Farm remembers.

#22 Antares102

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:17 AM

If you experienced Minimapageddon as an example you know why there is negativity on this forum.
If you dont watch this video:


If somebody takes such a large dump on you that one wont even be able see your head you get salty as well, believe me.

#23 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:19 AM

I'd be less negative if i had my bloody Scorpion, damn it!

#24 Antares102

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:20 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 20 July 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:

I'd be less negative if i had my bloody Scorpion, damn it!

OP forget about my previous post.
THIS is the reason why we are all salty !
We don have dem quad mechs!

#25 davoodoo

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:33 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 20 July 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:

I'd be less negative if i had my bloody Scorpion, damn it!

Pshh scorpion...

i want ursa.

But i can live with xanthos until dark age

#26 JadePanther

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:48 AM

View PostFupDup, on 20 July 2017 - 09:05 AM, said:

Don't forget about ECM, Consumables, Ghost Heat...

This forum has seen a whole lot of dumpster fires. Pepperridge Farm remembers.

I'm not sure if i was taking a break when they nerfed ecm or not.. I know i was absent for ghost heats unveil.. But i do remember the coolant flush jokes, though we kinda knew they were out there as a possibility. in fact there was a portion of the community asking for coolant flush.

View PostAntares102, on 20 July 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

If you experienced Minimapageddon as an example you know why there is negativity on this forum.
If you dont watch this video:

If somebody takes such a large dump on you that one wont even be able see your head you get salty as well, believe me.


minimp got bad there for a moment.. but in reality that was just a superficial thing that was remedied.. the permanent killer of the minimap was the doritos to diamonds that still lingers on as a pile of crap.. once they changed to diamond blobs everywhere i really kinda quit paying soo much attention to the minimap. Bringbackdoritos

#27 Jman5

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:50 AM

View Postdavoodoo, on 20 July 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

Why does ppl even talk like "negativity"(basically complaints) are a bad things... without critique no one would ever improve...

Criticism is fine, negativity is fine. Where I draw the line are the people who are practically incapable of expressing an opinion that isn't negative. Some folks here I have never seen voice a positive opinion about the game, but they clearly are enjoying something by the fact that they are so engaged.

When a person can't or won't offer some sort of balance in their opinions (positive or negative) it calls into question their objectivity.

#28 SilentWolff

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:58 AM

PGI squandered its goodwill. Trust me, I have been around since closed beta and have had a front row seat for this $hit show.
The good points in this game are generally in spite of PGI, not because of them.
I think the salt you see on the forums is because the game COULD of been great. Its the potential lost, that has people in fits.


#29 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:04 AM

These threads aren't as nearly as negative as most AAA game forums. Want some real salt? Go to the For Honor forums and you will see real salt over there. PGI is believe it or not is extremely tolerant with what they allow on here, and while most other games that have public accessible forums will openly censor and moderate their posts like it's a dictatorship for speaking out against their product/game. Even if it's constructive criticism.

Most of the complaints that are directed at PGI are due to the fact that a majority of us genuinely care about the game. We actually want PGI to succeed, but the lack of clear communication to the player base is what makes it difficult and frustrating for most of us that lurk here; hence all the negativity. If PGI could improve on the communication aspect and did a little marketing/advertising, I think the game would be in a much better spot than what it currently is in now.

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 20 July 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:

I'd be less negative if i had my bloody Scorpion, damn it!


Leaked images and previews of the quad mech+1 that they have planned for future release.

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Great high hard points that will truly strike fear throughout the battlefield.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 20 July 2017 - 10:07 AM.


#30 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:12 AM

View PostMightyrant Kell, on 20 July 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

Not everything needs to be a complaint. Lets look at a few good things.

The Mad Cat MKII may look silly, but holy cow that thing can dish out a beating! It just tanks so much and can pack a nice high mounted punch! -or- An Uziel with 2 heavy PPC's is a viable IS poptart mech! We needed that around!

Seriously guys, while PGI may make some silly coding mistakes that cannot be defended, things eventually even out. Complaining like entitled snobs never helps anything. If you see something that needs a fix, send in a ticket for it. S**t posting on here doesn't really seem to get that job done. At least...it hasn't for the last 3 years.

I have read posts about this game dying and there being problems with it from day 1. Every day someone posts a new one, and all the same voices chime in with their opinions. It gets boring reading your stuff. The other players around you are not blind or dumb. When there is an issue, we see it and we report it through the proper channels and eventually something gets done. I don't mind waiting. But all this crying wolf every time there is a patch is exhausting. It tires me out just reading it, I cannot imagine how pgi feels when that is the only feedback they get.

Anyway, I love the game. Player count is still about the same. Sky is still where it should be and has not fallen.

Love,

Mighty

game forums are always full of butthurt and QQ.

TBH this is tame. You should have been here in mid 2013-early 2014.... that was toxicity prime for these forums.

And compared to other forums, or Reddit (truly a hive of scum and well.... neanderthal thinking) even that was pretty cheerful, sadly.

#31 Antares102

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:16 AM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 20 July 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

Leaked images and previews of the quad mech+1 that they have planned for future release.


1..2..3..4.. ... 1...2...3...4..5...6
6? You are lying ! Thats more than 4 you know.
Those are no longer called quadrupods those are called hexapod!

#32 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:21 AM

View PostAntares102, on 20 July 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:


1..2..3..4.. ... 1...2...3...4..5...6
6? You are lying ! Thats more than 4 you know.
Those are no longer called quadrupods those are called hexapod!


Crap I counted 5 legs :S

#33 FupDup

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:24 AM

View PostJadePanther, on 20 July 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

I'm not sure if i was taking a break when they nerfed ecm or not.. I know i was absent for ghost heats unveil.. But i do remember the coolant flush jokes, though we kinda knew they were out there as a possibility. in fact there was a portion of the community asking for coolant flush.

They wanted it as a base mechanic like MW3 and MW4, not as a money-sink consumable.

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:29 AM

Negativity here? I'd say you need to get some perspective .
Go check out the Ubisoft For Honor or The Division forums if you wanna see negativity.

But in the world.of " nice try, here's your trophy for showing up" any criticism is seen as negative.
The real world expects results and effort followed with improvements, not just a nice try .

#35 A Shoddy Rental Mech

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:33 AM

There would be more positivity on these forums, but most of the white knights have given up trying to defend PGI's crap. Posted Image

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:38 AM

Totally agree with OP. I do take solace, however, in that most of these guys, recognizable by high post counts, seem to spend most of their time on these forums rather than in the game as I find the people I play with are far more positive and simply enjoy the game (for the most part).

It is quite likely that these are just in the minority, annoying an loud as they may be. The unfortunate thing is that asking a question in the forums usually results in a wave of salt and bitterness.

To those that cannot enjoy the game for some reason, sucks to be you. I enjoy it enough... it can be improved and it has been. So, yea....

#37 davoodoo

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:47 AM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 20 July 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

Leaked images and previews of the quad mech+1 that they have planned for future release.

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Great high hard points that will truly strike fear throughout the battlefield.

Dude i want that.

View PostJman5, on 20 July 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

Criticism is fine, negativity is fine. Where I draw the line are the people who are practically incapable of expressing an opinion that isn't negative. Some folks here I have never seen voice a positive opinion about the game, but they clearly are enjoying something by the fact that they are so engaged.

When a person can't or won't offer some sort of balance in their opinions (positive or negative) it calls into question their objectivity.

i disagree.

Shallow praise is worth nothing.
Then im yet to see ppl who didnt agree that is uac and ermeds are ok, so pretty much everyone is capable of positivity when presented with something decent.

But thats pretty much it, you wont
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just because it havent burn you today.

On the other hand if you can be positive about something with obvious serious flaws, then thats imo bigger reason to question your perspective.
Dont be like solaire, hes lunatic.

Edited by davoodoo, 20 July 2017 - 10:56 AM.


#38 PAQUERA

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 11:02 AM

I find this negativity annoying. I have a nice game, with new stuff, a lot of maps and a lot of posibilities in mech config and fitting. Im tired of crying people in the forums.

#39 davoodoo

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 11:06 AM

View PostPAQUERA, on 20 July 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

I find this negativity annoying. I have a nice game, with new stuff, a lot of maps and a lot of posibilities in mech config and fitting. Im tired of crying people in the forums.

So the problem aint even what they argue for, but the fact that they argue?

#40 Mightyrant

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 11:38 AM

Why are there multiple people telling me I should have been here back in the day when it clearly says I was a member back in the day? I have been around for all of it haha.

The problem is not what they are complaining about.

The problem in not THAT they are complaining.

The problem is that they post their grief every day on every thread there is. Have a couple of salt threats, but what really bugs us optimists is when you post your salt in unrelated topics. This post here is a good example. This is a bright side post. Not a salt thread.

Anyway, while I recognize that much of this is constructive and that it can get stuff done when PGI messes up, people complaining the way they do right now drives some players away. When newer players are posting and asking questions and the response they get is telling them the game is dying and people are leaving in droves, they will not play this game.

I am sorry but we need all the players on here we can get. Driving newer players away is part of the problem right now. Keep your salt to the salt threads and don't scare away the noobies. Send them to the bright side threads to figure the game out before they hop in a life raft.

PGI does an okay job considering the franchise and community they are dealing with, lets not kill the game for them.

@davoodoo: seriously dude, just because you don't think something is great doesn't mean other people see it the same way.

"On the other hand if you can be positive about something with obvious serious flaws, then thats imo bigger reason to question your perspective."

Just because something has "obvious serious flaws" does not by any means mean you cannot be positive about it. just because there is a flaw does not mean the whole idea has to be scrapped. I was happy with the skill tree during the first iteration. I knew it had flaws, but i was sure that they would be fixed. I even gave my feedback about it. next thing I knew, it came out and i was happy with the final product.





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