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#141 MovinTarget

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 06:36 AM

Some of the IS heroes i didn't care for before are much more viable with new tech.

I'm digging the Arrow with lfe, 6 HMG and 2 ERLL

Also like the Firebrand with dual rac5 and 4-6 ERSL

My fave atm is the ember with 4 flamers and 4 HMG... i think has lfe but not at computet atm.


Edited by MovinTarget, 23 July 2017 - 06:49 AM.


#142 Nelos Kniven

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 07:09 AM

View Posttayhimself, on 23 July 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

Pick a Prize. What hero should i buy for casual QP?
I like to play IS, but I have a smattering of clan mechs too.

Any clan omni-mech. Pahket, Purifier, Breaker etc. They have more capabilities and possible designs than other mechs.

#143 ShooteyMcShooterson

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:40 AM

It's amazing to me that even with an event funneling a larger volume of players to CW, players are still getting constant **** matchups.

Last night I had a pug drop (which clearly had several low tier players) where we didn't just face a large and well coordinated group drop, we faced one of the best units in the game.

How can a 8+ man drop from a comp unit get matched up with a ragtag band of low tier pugs? MAKE THEM WAIT FOR A FAIR MATCHUP. If there aren't enough players anymore for on the fly matchups that are fair, then set it up so comp units can pick a time range when they want a matchup, and the game will find another matchup with a fair competitor based on the time preferences of both. Quit ruining the game for the rest of us.

In that matchup, only 3 players on my team got over 150 game score. I personally had the best score by far (5 kills, just under 1200dmg. I got lucky to have my 3rd mech drop while they were spawn ****** us and just happened to be all used up, so I got several easy kills with my fresh mech), but even that was only enough to net a 189 score. Many players were pissed to be in such a matchup(again) and didn't even try.

Seriously PGI, this is a major issue for players, especially us players who aren't tryhards. The bad matchups kill the fun, which is supposed to be the point here.


ps... The logical question here is, but if comp units or big group drops have to wait for a fair matchup against a like competitor, then that ruins their fun too... No, they would still be free to pug it and get a matchup on the fly like the rest of us. It would just be that if they want to group up with a bunch of other elite players, they won't be able to terrorize casual teams anymore when they do.

Edited by ShooteyMcShooterson, 23 July 2017 - 08:44 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 09:09 AM

There is no MM in FP, never has been to my knowledge. Every player enters at their own risk and is best served by forming a 12 man of likeminded players.

Everyone is warned before dropping in FP, yet so few pay attention. You can point at various failings but at this point, right now, thete is simply not enough players to even merit matchmaking. Everyone would be sitting in queues forever.

Now if the gave you a "sorry you and 11 strangers are about to get wrecked by a 12-man" bonus... based on metrics to qualify of course, that would at least be something...

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 10:25 AM

View PostGr Armpit, on 22 July 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

I was excited for this event. Then I found out that every time I re-spawn I get the drop screen locked on and have to leave. This is annoying because then I don't get any rewards and have to wait 5 extra minuets between games. Please fix this and the chat bug PGI


[Right Shift] + [F11] fixes this bug but your drop is delayed 30 seconds


View PostKhalcruth, on 22 July 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:


Huh. I wonder what that should tell you about base rushing? What could the message possibly be? It's so cryptic...


Actually she gave an example where the enemy left their base undefended and she sneaked her mech in and killed Omega.
No base rushing involved.
"What could the message be ?"
Well in the load screen it says defend Omega Hardly cryptic. If a team chose too rush off and leave Omega undefended the mechwarrior who takes advantage of their arrant stupidity should be rewarded.
You get XP only, for turret and base structure kills, there should be match score rewards too.

the whole rewards system could do with a review. The last review (apart from the newer modes added) I can remember was when they removed the multiple TAG rewards.

[Right Shift] + [F11] fixes this bug but your drop is delayed 30 seconds

#146 ShooteyMcShooterson

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 12:02 PM

View PostMovinTarget, on 23 July 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

There is no MM in FP, never has been to my knowledge. Every player enters at their own risk and is best served by forming a 12 man of likeminded players.

Everyone is warned before dropping in FP, yet so few pay attention. You can point at various failings but at this point, right now, thete is simply not enough players to even merit matchmaking. Everyone would be sitting in queues forever.


Yet this approach in their business model generally precludes more players from even wanting to try and play. People usually don't spend money doing things in their limited free time that they don't enjoy doing, and if they do, they don't do it for long.

If PGI can't have a group/unit function in the game that results in equitable and enjoyable play, then that feature should be eliminated.

Edited by ShooteyMcShooterson, 23 July 2017 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 12:19 PM

Does anyone know what the "milestones" are?

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 12:31 PM

View PostShooteyMcShooterson, on 23 July 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:


Yet this approach in their business model generally precludes more players from even wanting to try and play. People usually don't spend money doing things in their limited free time that they don't enjoy doing, and if they do, they don't do it for long.

If PGI can't have a group/unit function in the game that results in equitable and enjoyable play, then that feature should be eliminated.


I am not saying this to be snarky or elitist. I am stating that the player must be prepared to face imbalance if they lack the initiative to get organized.

I drop solo in FP quite often, but I don't expect it to be a win when I drop solo because it was designed to be very team oriented. I suppose if someone drops solo in FP expecting to have a shot at winning would feel the way you do. I'm simply stating the state of things and that many solo players would be rather upset if you simply shut it down because some people have unrealistic expectations for how it plays outs in its current design.

Yes it would be better if they had more players and could do some sort of MM akin to QP, but they don't and solo players are gonna solo.

People have pointed out the rewards are somewhat lackluster... perhaps b/c PGI wasn't trying to make everyone feel obligated to play this mode?

View PostBloodKnight101, on 23 July 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

Does anyone know what the "milestones" are?



Go to https://mwomercs.com/tournaments

and scroll down.

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 12:41 PM

View PostMovinTarget, on 23 July 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:


I am not saying this to be snarky or elitist. I am stating that the player must be prepared to face imbalance if they lack the initiative to get organized.

I drop solo in FP quite often, but I don't expect it to be a win when I drop solo because it was designed to be very team oriented. I suppose if someone drops solo in FP expecting to have a shot at winning would feel the way you do. I'm simply stating the state of things and that many solo players would be rather upset if you simply shut it down because some people have unrealistic expectations for how it plays outs in its current design.

Yes it would be better if they had more players and could do some sort of MM akin to QP, but they don't and solo players are gonna solo.

People have pointed out the rewards are somewhat lackluster... perhaps b/c PGI wasn't trying to make everyone feel obligated to play this mode?




Go to https://mwomercs.com/tournaments

and scroll down.


I meant the boost your war chest part, it doesn't list the milestones and just says additional faction content is unlocked at specific milestones but doesn't say what milestones. Or am I mistaken and the only stuff we unlock is from the pick a prize, it seem like a gross waste of effort if I only get one of each type of item unlocked. I've played for probaby about 24 or more hours so far in this event and the pay off doesn't feel worth it if that is the case and I'll probably just go back to QP after I get my pattern.

Edited by BloodKnight101, 23 July 2017 - 12:53 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 12:53 PM

View PostBloodKnight101, on 23 July 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

I meant the boost your war chest part, it doesn't list the milestones and just says additional faction content is unlocked at specific milestones but doesn't say what milestones.


I am pretty sure it is just a poorly formatted web page and refers to the faction content you earn based on milestones just above that statement.

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Edited by MovinTarget, 23 July 2017 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 01:02 PM

Gotcha, definitely going to leave FW after I unlock my pattern. I'll come back regularly when it is fixed.

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 01:18 PM

View Posttesthero, on 23 July 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:


[Right Shift] + [F11] fixes this bug but your drop is delayed 30 seconds




Actually she gave an example where the enemy left their base undefended and she sneaked her mech in and killed Omega.
No base rushing involved.
"What could the message be ?"
Well in the load screen it says defend Omega Hardly cryptic. If a team chose too rush off and leave Omega undefended the mechwarrior who takes advantage of their arrant stupidity should be rewarded.
You get XP only, for turret and base structure kills, there should be match score rewards too.

the whole rewards system could do with a review. The last review (apart from the newer modes added) I can remember was when they removed the multiple TAG rewards.

[Right Shift] + [F11] fixes this bug but your drop is delayed 30 seconds


THANK YOU

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 01:19 PM

View PostBloodKnight101, on 23 July 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

I'll come back regularly when it is fixed.



SOON®

Edited by MovinTarget, 23 July 2017 - 01:50 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 07:01 PM

View PostKrucilatoz, on 23 July 2017 - 02:38 AM, said:

This FP event seems to test the new IS weapon and tech against clan.
And for now, it seems worked for them, i saw IS v Clan bar near the 50% balance.

And for the sake of sanity, those ANH is ridiculous. 8+ ANH line by 228 wipe our defense like nothing

Do you have a moment for me to tell you about our Lord and Saviour the Annihilator?

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 11:29 PM

View PostStonefalcon, on 23 July 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Do you have a moment for me to tell you about our Lord and Saviour the Annihilator?

Last night when I played, IS had the bar at about 75% in their favour. Admittedly that is the first time I've ever seen it like that. But now I'd demand to see all IS assaults and heavies get the mobility nerfs that clans did.

The Timber is a heavy and even when mobility is maxed out is useless, it takes ages to stop/start. It's far slower than any IS assault mech. So everything including the 75 tonnes and higher for clans cannot pad. This needs to be changed across the board to bring more worth to lights/meds in general.

I was going to request that clan heavies/assaults get their mobility back but... thats not right ! (even though I'd like that). Nimble heavies made medium mechs a useless pick.

To balance the game, Lore unfortunately has to step aside and I can accept that. Now the rules just need to be more blended for both sides (I'll say not completely equal but they can be bought closer though).

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:08 AM

View PostMovinTarget, on 23 July 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

Also like the Firebrand with dual rac5 and 4-6 ERSL

Due to the hitboxes its better with 2UAC10 and ERSL ..

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:19 AM

I repeat:

View PostIcantswim, on 22 July 2017 - 09:09 PM, said:

Is there a more convenient way to see which items/colors I'm picking as a reward?


Last time some dude made this picture:
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Even though I never got to the "pick a color" tier it was still super useful and informative. Is there anything like that for the current event?

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:46 AM

Thanks for the challenge PGI, it was a nice one.

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#159 D V Devnull

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:47 AM

This is making me laugh horribly. Have a read... :P

View PostKrocodockle, on 22 July 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

The people that are complaining about a fw event are the same potatoes bringing lrms every time.

Funny... Should I quote you, back on Page #1??? Oh heck, why not...

View PostKrocodockle, on 20 July 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

No participation rewards for clan players? Won't it be hard for IS players to get match score if they keep ghost dropping?

...and that looks like a complaint about a Faction Warfare Event to me. Now as of when I'm seeing this, you're a Smoke Jaguar Loyalist... So, if I expand further on your series of logic, one that I'm thinking isn't well-formed, are you trying to give me the idea that you're one of the "Potatoes bringing LRMs"??? I think that GLaDOS would have an issue to take up with you on that one. :lol:


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:02 AM

This event is completly useless for me. Dont have a good unit to fight and after stomped a few times with randoms in fw i give it up and play potato on qp.





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