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[Karl the Plumber]

Have any of you been tinkering with the new weapons and found yourself wishing that the massive changes came with a massive stat reset?

I'm not a stat hound or anything. I've got some tryhard builds for my dropdecks so I don't troll my teammates, but outside that I like to experiment. The mechlab is at least 50% of the fun I get out of battletech and it always has been.

That being said, this is a big update. I'd really appreciate it if I could compare my 3053 builds with my 3057 builds.

[Abisha]

ah why do bad players alway's wanna have a stats reset deal with it.
i don't wanna loss my 1.6 kill death rate

[Angel of Annihilation]

Abisha, on 21 July 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

ah why do bad players alway's wanna have a stats reset deal with it.
i don't wanna loss my 1.6 kill death rate

Actually it would probably be higher after a reset but more than likely you have gotten better than when you were when your stats first started getting tracked.

Also, I generally like to use my stats to compare and contrast the performance between my mechs but the new tech, at least for the IS side, pretty much invalidates all the previous stat.

[Abisha]

Viktor Drake, on 21 July 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Actually it would probably be higher after a reset but more than likely you have gotten better than when you were when your stats first started getting tracked.

Also, I generally like to use my stats to compare and contrast the performance between my mechs but the new tech, at least for the IS side, pretty much invalidates all the previous stat.

no the stats are more accurate the biger the sample is.
so you just bad that's what the stats say's simple. numbers do not lie

[FunkyT]

Abisha, on 21 July 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

no the stats are more accurate the biger the sample is.
so you just bad that's what the stats say's simple. numbers do not lie

Interesting how some people manage to turn everything into a flamefest...


Anyway, maybe not directly a full reset. But having the option to compare stats pre- and post Civil War would be cool. Getting some numeric indication on how this rather big step in the game affected certain mechs (specifically underperformers) would certainly be interesting.
Maybe that's what you meant with reset, I dunno.
But yeah, some seperated statics would be interesting.

[Abisha]

FunkyT, on 21 July 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

Interesting how some people manage to turn everything into a flamefest...


Anyway, maybe not directly a full reset. But having the option to compare stats pre- and post Civil War would be cool. Getting some numeric indication on how this rather big step in the game affected certain mechs (specifically underperformers) would certainly be interesting.
Maybe that's what you meant with reset, I dunno.
But yeah, some seperated statics would be interesting.

it's not a flame or insult it's just fact that stats do not lie when the sample is bigger so more matches beter insight you get of your self. simple

if i recall their is a tab that shows old school stats before invasion

Edited by Abisha, 21 July 2017 - 11:51 AM.

[SMDMadCow]

New variables have been introduced, we are effectively in a new data set. We should archive pre-CW stats as a benchmark and begin taking new measurements.

[Karl the Plumber]

FunkyT, on 21 July 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

Anyway, maybe not directly a full reset. But having the option to compare stats pre- and post Civil War would be cool. Getting some numeric indication on how this rather big step in the game affected certain mechs (specifically underperformers) would certainly be interesting.

That's mainly what I'd like, yeah. I don't look at that stat tab in my profile much, but since it's there, I'd like it to tell me something useful, you know?

[Luminis]

I'd just like to filter the data sets. There should be a date attached to them, right? Let me just filter by date so I can get the data I want.

Abisha, on 21 July 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

it's not a flame or insult it's just fact that stats do not lie when the sample is bigger so more matches beter insight you get of your self.

If you want accurate results, you don't want samples fudged by shifting parameters. Do you even statistics, bro?

[bbihah]

I don't think he even have a brain. It could possibly be a bot.

[Abisha]

Luminis, on 22 July 2017 - 05:41 AM, said:

I'd just like to filter the data sets. There should be a date attached to them, right? Let me just filter by date so I can get the data I want.


If you want accurate results, you don't want samples fudged by shifting parameters. Do you even statistics, bro?

let me guess your win/loss is below 0.5? bro

Edited by Abisha, 22 July 2017 - 09:58 AM.

[Davegt27]

I just wish they would reset the contract stuff

loosing 25% loyalty points is to much

[Luminis]

Abisha, on 22 July 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

let me guess your win/loss is below 0.5? bro

Overall 1.24 but thanks for playing.

But I guess you at least got the point about not fudging statistics with shifting parameters?

Edited by Luminis, 22 July 2017 - 01:31 PM.

[Revis Volek]

Abisha, on 21 July 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

no the stats are more accurate the biger the sample is.
so you just bad that's what the stats say's simple. numbers do not lie

Thats is 100% inaccurate in this case, MWO stats are so far off its not even funny.

If PGI had any idea how to keep accurate stats I would certainly agree with you but they dont and never have. They are a rough estimate.

Granted some may be better then other due to variables but as a whole they are a good indicator as to where you are but not gospel.

Edited by Revis Volek, 22 July 2017 - 02:27 PM.

[Mystere]

Viktor Drake, on 21 July 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Actually it would probably be higher after a reset but more than likely you have gotten better than when you were when your stats first started getting tracked.

Also, I generally like to use my stats to compare and contrast the performance between my mechs but the new tech, at least for the IS side, pretty much invalidates all the previous stat.

Use the seasons.

In a related note, I just wish PGI expanded the API to also generate a player's own stats. They do have the data.

FunkyT, on 21 July 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

Interesting how some people manage to turn everything into a flamefest e-peen waiving...

FTFY.

Luminis, on 22 July 2017 - 05:41 AM, said:

If you want accurate results, you don't want samples fudged by shifting parameters. Do you even statistics, bro?

Nah! He just wants to waive his e-peen for everyone to see.

Edited by Mystere, 22 July 2017 - 02:47 PM.

[Luminis]

Mystere, on 22 July 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Nah! He just wants to waive his e-peen for everyone to see.

Is a 1.6 KDR something to brag about? That's pretty much where I'm sitting a, too, and it never struck me as impressive in any way.

[JC Daxion]

Abisha, on 21 July 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

no the stats are more accurate the biger the sample is.
so you just bad that's what the stats say's simple. numbers do not lie

Is it really that hard for you to add 2 numbers together and get an average? On the other hand, People can't just stop counting old stats to find new changes on their mechs, or tech.

They already reset stats once, If i really wan't my total average i add 2 numbers, If they updated, to reset, which i totally agree with the OP, I'd have to add 3.. Simple math is to hard!


But in the end, the stat page needs some revamping anyway, because some trackers are broken in the first place..

Mystere, on 22 July 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Use the seasons.

Doesn't work for unique chassis.. Unless of course you just play one for an entire month..


But as for leader boards, i'd really like to see a # of matches played filter.. Like, be able to set it only people with 100 matches played be ranked. (on my end) It's interesting how many folks just play like 15 matches, then stop. Makes me wonder how many are just old alt accounts you know? Or just a good win streak. I have days where i play 10-15 matches and do nothing but roll and have great games. But if i play 200, those even out you know?

Edited by JC Daxion, 22 July 2017 - 06:39 PM.