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#1 GuardDogg

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 07:17 PM

Since MWO been out in beta. Myself been struggling with Graphic settings. Will not believe how many cards I went through hoping to get the best graphics in MWO. As of today still no change and holding at Medium settings. Is that High and Very high setting just for show? Now we got these options (nVidia, and Ati), in, outside windows applications. Like games, productiviity. Nvidia has Both "Control panel, and Geforce Experience", and Ati has both "Catalyst, and Control Panel". In these control panels, their are options, that has "Let 3D application decide" meaning, "Do not go here, ignore. Use application settings" We say..oh okay. Click check mark "Let 3D......." Now in 3D application we only have one option, not two. We do not have "Use control panel settings". We only have "low, med, high, and advanced" Those settings in MWO, are very critical above Medium, and I have seen it in game. You can have the best ping, connection, but the graphic (or other hardware) settings you are using, can help you warp, lag, thinking you have the best. How can someone use both, some outside settings, "Control panel" and also 3D application settings, and get the best. MWO graphic settings is such a struggle. Would think by now would get the best.

Nvidia Evga Geforce Gtx 1060 sc.(6 gb)
2x 8gb ram (1866)
Amd A8-6600K (4 core)

Ah..what else...water cooling.

Edited by GuardDogg, 23 July 2017 - 08:13 PM.


#2 NARC BAIT

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 11:19 PM

that's an interesting setup you've got there ... and depending on the monitor resolution your going for, I'd expect you to get 'near' 60 FPS ...

in NVidia control panel, usually I start of by setting the slider to 'performance', and then change it into advanced mode .... you can probably ignore the 'global' settings, and click on program settings, and then either find MechWarrior online, or create a profile for it, within there, you will probably want to set
'Power management mode' to 'Prefer maximum performance' 
'texture filtering - quality' to 'high performance'
additionally, you may want to lock down the vsync mode, if your using that ....

have you tried overclocking that processor at all ? disabling its internal GPU could possibly help, seeing as your not using it anyway ...

and then there is the in game settings, which are not well tuned or representative of current hardware ... they are kind of stuck in a time loop from 2013 .... and at this point, you kind of need to define what you want, versus what you get .... I set everything to be 'low' within the game, and then use a custom configuration to turn things up .... works well at my end, YMMV

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:05 AM

Well... Ive got a gxt 760, and i play it on very high and all the settings in Geforce Experience turned to maximum...

I cant beat on it anymore then i am.. and i dont have any problems..

So either your bottle necking or you have something configured wrong,
tell us more about your ram and your motherboard chip set configuration
whats your FSB speed?
Im also on a SSD... but that didnt make any change other then load times,

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 08:41 PM

Wow. I did play around with outside settings "Control Panel" I noticed that if you have for example "MFAA", or "FXAA" off, you have to turn on to use in MWO, that also goes with other stuff. I have increased 10 FPS, that although I was getting up and down of 25-60 FPS, I now get them from 40 FPS - 70 FPS (using High settings, and FXAA). So it is best to look at your control panels what is on/off what needs to be adjusted and also inside MWO settings. Also when not on MWO, I change to "Use 3D application", or all default. Also I do watch my temps, 35C normal, then 50C (gaming). I do not overclock anything, and also known the nvidia 1060 SC is already SC. No need to overclock.

I did check my CPU in bios, and I have already disabled the integrated graphics. (IGFX), noticed "discreet" can be available when enabled.

My system specs:

2x 8GB 2133s "Adata", clocked in BIOS "1866". Choices 1600, 1866, 2133. I choosed 1866. Noticed changes, and happy with 1866. Do not want to OC ram.
Asus A78M-A (FM2+), using the AMD A8-6600K

http://www.cpu-world...60KWOA44HL.html

Win 7 (64bit), 1TB WD HD (All you need for gaming, graphics)

The Evga 1060 SC (Awesome card, came with Tom Clancys Ghost Recon "wildlands", that I wasn't to interested in. But I do play it. $90 game?), also the Asus 460

https://www.evga.com...=06G-P4-6163-KR

The Asus RX460 O2G (had this card before changing to Evga 1060), good, awesome card, software.

https://www.asus.com...DUAL-RX460-O2G/

Resolution at 1920x1080 (HDMI)

http://www.lg.com/us...Q-B-led-monitor

Edited by GuardDogg, 24 July 2017 - 09:40 PM.


#5 NARC BAIT

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:29 PM

turning of FXAA will give you a big boost in frames ... if you *really* want to have some degree of anti aliasing, POSTAA is generally fine, FXAA takes 20x more work, for what I would call a 2% improvement .... and besides, when frames are whizzing by at their maximum, you don't really have the time to see each one individually, and recalculating it per frame, becomes, wasteful ...

you might want to try turning vsync on, generally I'm against vsync in principal, I see that the native for the screen is 75 hz, and enabling it might actually help you get there, without downgrading FXAA ... if you really don't care about the refresh rate that much, you might try locking it into 60 hz, and putting vsync on, it would probably give you a more 'consistent' frame rate overall ... with the drops to 40 odd fps still being 2/3s of 60, instead of feeling as though you've dropped 50% performance ...

the memory controller within the cpu is only rated for 1866 MHz ... so, you could try pushing on that, but your most likely to just find instability, and I don't think you'll 'need' to ...

your video card is basically the same as mine, although I did not get a super clocked edition, and I'm pretty sure it had a slightly different fan strapped on, I yanked that off and dumped on a 'Corsair HG10 970', and I can tell you that at 1080p, your never really 'pushing' the card to its limits (you need 4x more resolution), so when you experience slow downs, its probably not related to the GPU in any way, and its probably the CPU feeding everything becoming bogged down ...

and if your problem is CPU power, that its probably relating to the least optimized part of the game, the battlegrid, and the only thing you can really do right now to improve the situation, is turn off the team information, which I think by default is the -> ; <- key ... well, you could turn off the whole HUD, but just the team information is probably far enough ...

supposedly there is a bit of overclocking headroom on that CPU from its stock clocks ... and that *would* help you, but it can be like swimming in the ocean, it looks fine, until your being dragged out to sea ... the suggested realistic maximum, is 4.6 ghz ... you mention water cooling, I assume a reasonable AIO setup, which suggests to me that you probably have some room to squeeze there, think about this path last .... as it gets complex, and right off the bat I'm not familiar with which process is used on that processor or how far out of tolerance it needs to be pushed to become achievable but its essentially a black edition cpu, and the multiplier should be unlocked, depending on how the bios feels like intepretting things ... as a general rule of thumb, on a water block, you should probably be able to achieve the turbo frequency on all cores, with little extra stress placed onto the components, if you do any overclocking on the FSB, the RAM speed gets pushed upwards as well, and that gets much trickier ...

but you could probably disable turbo core, leave on cool and quiet, and adjust the multiplier to be 4.2 ghz, without changing the voltage at all ... before you do this though, make sure you know how to reset the bios to default in case it doesn't like it ... you haven't specified the motherboard, so theres a few random factors in there .... but if its good like that, then you've probably just gained 10% on the single thread performance ... and sitting at the high edge of nominal tolerance ...

Edited by NARC BAIT, 27 July 2017 - 05:34 PM.






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