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[BSK]

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Your Sensor Range is also reduced by 75% while your Stealth Armor is Active.

Apparently when you setup a UAV you will not get any information as well. You get the XP bonus and credits but you don't see the enemies even if you are very close.

[BTGbullseye]

Theoretically, this should be how it's done... The UAV is linked to you, and you can't recieve or send any information while stealth armor is active, so you see nothing even when the UAV is up. Does this also affect your team's viewing of the enemy?

[D V Devnull]

It's NOT that linked, BTGbullseye. Being a separate entity in its' own right, with its' own Health, that UAV should be relaying information to the whole team. This is a definite BUG, no question.

Further, NOWHERE in the Patch Notes does it say that Stealth Armor blocks you from Sending/Receiving Information with your own Team. Pilots, and any Deployed Consumable Equipment, are ALWAYS able to communicate information with their Team, UNLESS they're being actively affected by an Enemy ECM. In BSK's situation, they were NOT being affected by Enemy ECM, therefore everything should have been communicating normally. PGI blew it, and they've certainly got something big to fix.

~Mr. D. V. "Wishing PGI would fix their bugs before posting releases... We're NOT Guinea Pigs!!!" Devnull

[BTGbullseye]

You misunderstand the 'linked' part... I meant that it has to link to you with some form of electronic communication for you to be able to communicate with it and receive telemetry. Stealth Armor is designed to completely block those kinds of transmissions, so you shouldn't be able to receive that information, or send any of your own.

As for the UAV communicating with teammates, that was a question I asked, as it was not mentioned. If it wasn't sending info to your team, then it would be a bug, but not if it was only not sending it to the stealthed mech, and only while it was stealthed.

Does the information from the UAV come in just fine after you disable stealth armor? If yes, then that's working.
Does the information send to your team despite your stealth? If yes, then that's working.

Edited by BTGbullseye, 25 July 2017 - 01:54 PM.

[D V Devnull]

Again, NOWHERE in the Patch Notes does it indicate that Stealth Armor blocks Communication. You're ALWAYS supposed to be able to communicate with your Team and any consumables used by any Team member, EXCEPT in the event that you're affected by an ECM. Stealth Armor is ONLY supposed to block detection by Enemy Mechs and Enemy Consumables, while temporarily losing Detection Range for anything your Mech could directly detect on its' own, nothing more! There is supposed to be NO effect on information relayed to you by Teammates and consumables launched by any Team member.

~D. V. "As I said, there is a DEFINITE BUG HERE." Devnull

[BTGbullseye]

You're complaining at me for saying that it's how it should work, and ignoring that there is way too little info regarding this possible bug to be able to figure out what's really happening?

1. Is he inside enemy ECM coverage? (not answered)
2. Is his team receiving info from the UAV while his stealth is active? (not answered)
3. Does turning off stealth show detections from the UAV? (not answered)

[D V Devnull]

Sure, we could use some answers. Those would help with fixing this.

However, there is still the fact that PGI hasn't held up to the letter of what their Patch Notes said. That is what's aggravating me, as the fact that it's NOT holding up to the letter of the Patch Notes specifically shows a Bug to be present here.

~D. V. "It's literally that simple." Devnull

[BTGbullseye]

There is way too much that isn't holding up to the patch notes to be that worried about just the Stealth Armor, IMO.

[BSK]

BTGbullseye, on 25 July 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

Theoretically, this should be how it's done... The UAV is linked to you, and you can't recieve or send any information while stealth armor is active, so you see nothing even when the UAV is up.

Then my NARCs would be useless as well. And the TAG. If my UAVs, my NARCs, my TAGs are completely useless when scouting, then what is stealth armor good for anyway?

[BTGbullseye]

UAV should still communicate to your team, (comms directly to each mech providing information to all teammates) as should the NARC, (basically a really powerful radio beacon that punches through any local interference) and TAG. (a laser that pulses in a pattern that your allies optical sensors can see easily) You personally shouldn't benefit due to your sensor limitations from the armor, but your team should get everything as normal.

Edited by BTGbullseye, 26 July 2017 - 12:00 AM.

[Widowmaker1981]

BSK, on 25 July 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

Then my NARCs would be useless as well. And the TAG. If my UAVs, my NARCs, my TAGs are completely useless when scouting, then what is stealth armor good for anyway?

I can only see one (1) use. Enforcer hero with stealth armour, JJs and a Gauss Rifle (can fit ~6 tons of ammo).. sit up on the middle building in Vitric forge being a pain in the butt, because people use heat vision to see at long ranges on hot maps, and it makes you not show up.

[BTGbullseye]

Stealth armor was specifically designed to be extremely situational... It's not a straight upgrade to ECM, and shouldn't be thought of or treated that way.

If they ever put in the Chameleon Light Polarization Shield, then that may be considered a straight upgrade, but not the armor.

Edited by BTGbullseye, 26 July 2017 - 01:35 PM.