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[C4NC3R]

The6thMessenger, on 26 July 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

Not insane when you do it right, unfortunately it wasn't done right. Facetime is actually a lot safer with range, CERLL was the proof.

On CQB, i'd go for SRMs, that way i could twist the damage away and then nuke the CT when the time is right.

What is insane is long range PPFLD when you can vaporize people afar with Gauss PPC. Doing so on a spreadable damage, and requires face-tanking, is not.

Agree SRM's are some way better in CQB but only in amount more than 3xSRM6, less than that use RAC5, more effective plus to that enemy who ignores Skill-Tree will ain't got -37.5% screen shake when get strafed by RAC's. Just wait till *IGR comes out.
*IGR - Improved Gauss Rifle.

[Luminis]

Martaloc, on 26 July 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

ROTARY AC'S ARE OP

[Lux Monolithic]

RACs are pretty terrible, as much as I want to like them. Too hot, too sucky. Too everything.

[sub2000]

I use 1 rac2 and 4 ac5 on mauler, So far so good.
or 1 rac2 and 3 ac5 on Black Widow..

[Zergling]

C4NC3R, on 27 July 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

You wrong... they exist, in TRO 3081 they are ExTech, in times of Jihad they are mass-Tech.
So don't give people a false statements, please.

What is TRO 3081? It isn't any sort of official release, so it isn't canon.

C4NC3R, on 27 July 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

TRO3069 PGI invention, it's extend TRO3067. TRO3081 is meta. But some things are turned since FASA goes down.

What?

C4NC3R, on 27 July 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

The real MechWarriors belong to that fraction, the rest are heretics.

What?

[Mcgral18]

C4NC3R, on 27 July 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

You wrong... they exist, in TRO 3081 they are ExTech, in times of Jihad they are mass-Tech.
So don't give people a false statements, please.


TRO3069 PGI invention, it's extend TRO3067. TRO3081 is meta. But some things are turned since FASA goes down.


The real MechWarriors belong to that fraction, the rest are heretics.

You can go ahead and prove they're lore
I'll wait

[SMDMadCow]

C4NC3R, on 27 July 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

You wrong... they exist, in TRO 3081 they are ExTech, in times of Jihad they are mass-Tech.
So don't give people a false statements, please.


TRO3069 PGI invention, it's extend TRO3067. TRO3081 is meta. But some things are turned since FASA goes down.


The real MechWarriors belong to that fraction, the rest are heretics.

There is no TRO 3081;
http://www.sarna.net...hnical_Readouts

We've got all the way to 3150 and no such thing as RAC/20.

[Imperialus]

I've been doing OKish with the RAC5's. They're a lot of fun for sure but they really work best on a nice high mount mech like the Marauder, Jagger or Rifleman in the second line at around the 3-400 meter mark laying down support for a push or suppressing an enemy push. They can strip a lot of armour pretty quick, but in a brawl, no thanks. They need too much facetime and if you end up out of position on in close quarters then it goes downhill quick.

[Zergling]

C4NC3R, on 27 July 2017 - 03:26 AM, said:

Btw... RAC20 widely used into Heavy Deffence Turrets)))

Non-canon information, not found in any official release.

[CuriousCabbitBlue]

xD

[LordBraxton]

RACs arent OP persay, but I do think they make for mediocre gameplay.

Their most annoying quality being the massive explosion graphic from each hit, meaning you can effectivly blind someone by aiming anywhere near their upper torso.

Damage wise they are also really strong, but cant poke, and MWO is all about poking

[C4NC3R]

LURM's are OP.

[C4NC3R]

Mcgral18, on 27 July 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

You can go ahead and prove they're lore
I'll wait

TRO3067 is that not exist you say?

[C4NC3R]

Martaloc, on 26 July 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

mechs from the Mechwarrior 4 in 2000. OMG after 17 years we can play in MWO with these four Not to commention that in the Mechwarrior 4 we can play with the IS omnis too, Sunder, Templar and Owens and the others.And finaly when we have the HEAVY GAUSS RIFLE ,but where is the mech who used them? The heavy gauss rifle platform is not the Annihilator but also the FAFNIR 100 tons Lyran assault mech!!! The Annihilator is clan project mech from the Wolfs, there is Annihilator 2c in the clans,Wolf's Dragons mercanaries use Annihilator's from the beginnings ,absolut not new tech! But the Fafnir is the bearing of the heavy gauss not the Annihilator and the Fafnir is after Tukayyd battle , he is the new tech not the Annihilator.

Sory guys for my bad english, this is not my nativ language.

Man since you play TT from only Sarna times, I tell you the truth: - Main HGR platforms was Pillager, Annie, Vampire*... and than around TRO3085 a Fafnir. And HGR become as Experimental Tech 2 year before Tukayyd Battle on such 100 tonn platform as Vampire VME-6G who was with Annihilator ANH-3X are first mechs who carried more than one HGR in battle.
Those who played BT TT since FASA times are concidered an ComStar Members comparing to all of you guys. This is axiome.

* In 2004 Vampire 100 tons heavy assault mech was turned into an Experemental Tech than in 2006 striken from the mech list totaly due being a most versatile platform of all times. Lucky Annie and Mackie not been striken out yet.

Edited by C4NC3R, 29 July 2017 - 08:12 AM.

[Mcgral18]

C4NC3R, on 29 July 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

TRO3067 is that not exist you say?

Don't see anything about RACs in there

Again, you've failed to provide any evidence

[C4NC3R]

Mcgral18, on 29 July 2017 - 08:22 AM, said:

Don't see anything about RACs in there

Again, you've failed to provide any evidence

Oh c'mon... you called TRO3067 "false" and now trying to evade to stand by your words. Nice try, but ain't working this time son.

[Mcgral18]

C4NC3R, on 29 July 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Oh c'mon... you called TRO3067 "false" and now trying to evade to stand by your words. Nice try, but ain't working this time son.

You don't understand how giving evidence works


RAC20s aren't lore, by default
You're saying they are, yet have failed to provide ANY supporting evidence.
You've shown a book, yet not any contents of the book


http://www.sarna.net...p?Number=175581

That says they're false, which is more evidence than you've given

[C4NC3R]

Mcgral18, on 29 July 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

You don't understand how giving evidence works

It's clearly your point of a view, don't say for every one, say for your self. Please.

"Sarna says..." ...you always concider truth by everything whats written on the wall? Did ya?
Bring here a FASA Corp. TRO Books than. You'll see the difference. Yes, FASA is no more, Sarna and Harmony Gold bought rights, but does it concidered that they tell truth? Ain't sh!t.

As I say'd: - Yes RAC20 is Lore, but which TRO they belongs, I don't remember, or 3081 extention or TRO3085, or even later. That what I told, and nothing more or less. And since we got BT Wiki where 1000 time a year they editing and proofreading, I litteraly can't concider Sarna Wiki as a proof any more.
Now you have my answer on all your questions.

Btw... Mechwarrior 3 and 4 also ain't Lore concidering Sarna and Harmony Gold point of view. But I trust MW3 and 4 more than Sarna cause I play BattleTech since 1988. See the diff now?

Edited by C4NC3R, 29 July 2017 - 08:47 AM.

[Mcgral18]

C4NC3R, on 29 July 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

It's clearly your point of a view, don't say for every one, say for your self. Please.

...read the rest of the post, bro

They don't even have a SARNA page, unless you want to go make one for them

The Sourcebook you linked doesn't even mention weapons, or RACs, directly. Go ahead and post a picture, if you own the book, of the relevant page


THAT would be providing evidence. Saying: " It's in there, trust me bro" is not providing evidence

[C4NC3R]

Mcgral18, on 29 July 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

...read the rest of the post, bro

They don't even have a SARNA page, unless you want to go make one for them

The Sourcebook you linked doesn't even mention weapons, or RACs, directly. Go ahead and post a picture, if you own the book, of the relevant page


THAT would be providing evidence. Saying: " It's in there, trust me bro" is not providing evidence

I'd rather do an Sarna Wiki Edit than gonna clear my garage to find a TRO book