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[Inatu Elimor]

The kitfox is not very popular nowadays but with these builds I' m having fun.
The fox remains extremely vulnerable so this thread is not for the fainthearted...
Fill in the skilltree to your likings and wisely. Also, you will be in support at all times so never go solo.

KFX-Prime.

loadout
3 laser ams/3 heavy lasers/ECM/MK II

role
protect your team from LRM. Don' t expect high dmg but this build will increase win chance.
(Cave:In the high tiers chance of enemy team carrying lrm is low nowadays)

KFX-S

loadout
4 heavy machine guns/3 flamers/2 laser ams/ecm
role
Look for the teammate that picks a trailer. Help him with your flamers. The moment the bogey shutsdown you will kill him with your guns. Very high probability of kill.

KFX-PR

loadout
2 heavy machineguns/4 medium pulse laseres.
The pulse lasers are high mounted so ideal for hill peeking. Enjoy.

Try this builds and tell me what you think.

p.s. I assume you know how to deal with the corresponding pods.

Edited by Inatu Elimor, 13 August 2017 - 07:12 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

3 laser AMS and 3 heavy lasers?
Isn't that like... A bit hot?

[Angel of Annihilation]

Juodas Varnas, on 13 August 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:

3 laser AMS and 3 heavy lasers?
Isn't that like... A bit hot?

3 Laser AMS by itself it too hot. Tired it in my Kit Fox and in at least one match, I couldn't even use my offensive weapons at all. I shot down like 500+ missiles during the match but was also at critical heat almost the entire match. Even when there aren't that many missiles, I still found myself at a constant 40-70% heat most of the time.

[Inatu Elimor]

Juodas Varnas, on 13 August 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:

3 laser AMS and 3 heavy lasers?
Isn't that like... A bit hot?

I run skilltree with all enhanced coolshots and extra slots etc. Yes this baby is hot but you can run. Anticipate the heat.

Edited by Inatu Elimor, 13 August 2017 - 07:41 AM.

[Inatu Elimor]

Viktor Drake, on 13 August 2017 - 07:35 AM, said:

3 Laser AMS by itself it too hot. Tired it in my Kit Fox and in at least one match, I couldn't even use my offensive weapons at all. I shot down like 500+ missiles during the match but was also at critical heat almost the entire match. Even when there aren't that many missiles, I still found myself at a constant 40-70% heat most of the time.

500+ can save the game.

[Methanoid]

Inatu Elimor, on 13 August 2017 - 07:35 AM, said:

I run skilltree with all enhanced coolshots and extra slots etc. Yes this baby is hot but you can run. Anticipate the heat.

or run 3x regular ams and have no issue.

Edited by Methanoid, 13 August 2017 - 08:05 AM.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Inatu Elimor, on 13 August 2017 - 07:35 AM, said:

I run skilltree with all enhanced coolshots and extra slots etc. Yes this baby is hot but you can run. Anticipate the heat.

Lots of C-bill expenditure and your still going to be running hot enough you can't act offensively very often. Not a good trade if you ask me.

Inatu Elimor, on 13 August 2017 - 07:43 AM, said:

500+ can save the game.

Sure it can but at the expense of your own personal rewards as I mentioned above. Also you have to ask yourself if taking out a ton of missiles is more beneficial to winning the match than being able to contribute offensively. For my part, my offensively built Kit Foxes can usually break 300-400 damage and usually get several kills. Does negating 500+ damage from LRMs outweigh all the damage that could be outputted from the 2-3 mechs you either personal put down or greatly helped put down on an offensively built Kit Fox?

Personally I am not sure if it is worth it or not but I will leave that for you to decide.

Methanoid, on 13 August 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

or run 3x regular ams and have no issue.

Yeah that is what I do, run 3 x reg AMS on my Kit Fox Support Build.

[Khobai]

I still like this kitfox the best

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1136572021bb39b

or the heavy medium laser one for more hitting power but less range

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3a9a0efc19500e6

Edited by Khobai, 13 August 2017 - 08:31 AM.

[Inatu Elimor]

Viktor,

Last match got me 47 damage. You can LMAO. Point is, my triple ams were going off continuously and we won... I won't say that is because of me but the 3xams sure helped. (No cooling down issues BTW.)
Like you I' m focused on most DMG... But should we not look the other way round?? Just look at my missles stats

Edited by Inatu Elimor, 13 August 2017 - 09:12 AM.

[Methanoid]

yeah but you can do exactly the same with regular ams, no need for lams which just cripple you on a triple or even dual ams setup, heck even my 1x ams huntsman overheats using 1 lams when its constantly active.

Edited by Methanoid, 13 August 2017 - 09:26 AM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

These builds are not for the fainthearted.

[Vxheous]

Methanoid, on 13 August 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

or run 3x regular ams and have no issue.

That....is way too much back armor on any mech, especially the Kit fox....2-3 armor max on that thing

[Methanoid]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 13 August 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

That....is way too much back armor on any mech, especially the Kit fox....2-3 armor max on that thing

i changed it recently because of recent stealth mechs tearing my back open when i was already softened.

[RestosIII]

Juodas Varnas, on 13 August 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:

3 laser AMS and 3 heavy lasers?
Isn't that like... A bit hot?

Hot is an understatement. If an MRM 80 gets fired in your direction, you're overheated now.

Inatu Elimor, on 13 August 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

Viktor,

Last match got me 47 damage. You can LMAO. Point is, my triple ams were going off continuously and we won... I won't say that is because of me but the 3xams sure helped. (No cooling down issues BTW.)
Like you I' m focused on most DMG... But should we not look the other way round?? Just look at my missles stats

Spoiler

As a regular support Kit Fox pilot, I can honestly say that the LAMS are way too hot for it. It's much better to stick with at LEAST 2 normal AMS, and maybe have a single LAMS for if you expect to run out of ammo. But a normal 3 AMS loaded Kit Fox has enough ammo to do this sort of thing, so you shouldn't really have ammo problems on it anyways.

Edited by RestosIII, 13 August 2017 - 10:58 AM.

[Lucifaust]

RestosIII, on 13 August 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Hot is an understatement. If an MRM 80 gets fired in your direction, you're overheated now.



As a regular support Kit Fox pilot, I can honestly say that the LAMS are way too hot for it. It's much better to stick with at LEAST 2 normal AMS, and maybe have a single LAMS for if you expect to run out of ammo. But a normal 3 AMS loaded Kit Fox has enough ammo to do this sort of thing, so you shouldn't really have ammo problems on it anyways.

Yeah that's what I'd do. @ 2 normal and 1 lams. That way it gets both intense early lrm negation and retains late game utility.

Edited by Lucifaust, 13 August 2017 - 11:13 AM.

[Brain Cancer]

Two standard + one LAMS works out pretty well, IMHO. It's a manageable balance of heat and endurance.

A set of HML/ERMLs/MPLs is modest firepower but still useful, you can of course have ECM for further protection of what's around you.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cef94eb8bfdb5de

Three HMLs make a satisfying dent in most targets. Since I usually end up escorting relatively sluggish heavies and assaults for cover, I don't find I need jump jets and MGs as much as I need raw firepower, AMS ammo, and decent cooling.

Edited by Brain Cancer, 13 August 2017 - 12:05 PM.

[Yellonet]

This looks interesting, I'll go see which one of my IS mechs can run 3 AMS

[Sierra3]

I run two 'modified' Kit Fox C's and a 'modified' Purifier.

KFX-C "Sky-Net": 4x C-LMGs w/ 3.5 tons of ammo, 2x C-ER Micro Lasers, 3x C-AMS w/ 4 tons of ammo, TAG/Active Probe/ECM, and 2x class V jump jets.

KFX-C "Vulcan": 4x C-HMGs w/ 4.5 tons of ammo, 3x C-ER Micro Lasers, 3x C-AMS w/ 3 tons of ammo, Active Probe/ECM, and 2x class V jump jets.

KFX-PR "Sun Flare": 2x C-LMGs w/ 1.5 tons of ammo, 1x C-HML, 2x C-HMGs w/ 2.5 tons of ammo, 2x C-Micro Pulse Lasers, ECM, 3x additional C-DHS, and 6x class V jump jets.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 13 August 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

That....is way too much back armor on any mech, especially the Kit fox....2-3 armor max on that thing

2 is pushing it imo

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 13 August 2017 - 08:23 PM.

[QuantumButler]

The tried and true Purifier with 6 er smalls, 3 standard AMS, and 2 MGs [now LMGs] is still very reliable. Doubly so now that ER laser range is unnerfed again.

Edited by QuantumButler, 13 August 2017 - 11:00 PM.