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[RestosIII]

Just thought I'd make a post quickly telling people jumping through the forums between matches that the NGNG/PGI stream is up and running. https://www.twitch.tv/ngngtv

Also, their first announcement that IK is dead due to hit reg.

[Kiiyor]

RestosIII, on 18 August 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

Also, their first announcement that IK is dead due to hit reg.

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[Sixpack]

On the plusside 2 new maps. One of them is a city map.

Also the events will be handled clientside soon, the whole system they wanted to use for FP events seems to have evolved.

Maybe going back to 8v8 (lots of pros and cons for both 8v8 and 12v12)

[FupDup]

RestosIII, on 18 August 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

Also, their first announcement that IK is dead due to hit reg.

This really isn't a surprise given that, as far as I've heard, hit reg was the original reason that IK got removed in the first place. As I understand it, the issue is that IK were client-side rather than server-side, meaning that a mech's legs on your screen might actually be somewhere slightly different on the server end. This could result in you shooting something that looks like a perfectly valid target but not doing any damage.

Basically "Ghost Legs."

[SkyHammyr]

I love how he says, "We base our design decision on the popularity of the map, how many times it's voted on..."
When Maps like Canyon Network aren't even in the rotation (and unable to be voted on) anymore because they don't work with these new game modes.

Edited by SkyHammyr, 18 August 2017 - 06:18 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Shall I attend?



Nah

[Mcgral18]

Oh, it's over anyhow

[El Bandito]

SkyHammyr, on 18 August 2017 - 06:17 PM, said:

I love how he says, "We base our design decision on the popularity of the map, how many times it's voted on..."
When Maps like Canyon Network aren't even in the rotation (and unable to be voted on) anymore because they don't work with these new game modes.

Canyon is a mediocre map, actually. Good in terms of visibility and size, but bad in terms of layout.

[mike29tw]

RestosIII, on 18 August 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

Also, their first announcement that IK is dead due to hit reg.

...Further cement the theory that PGI no longer has any coder.

[Juodas Varnas]

BOOOO!

IK not being added due to hitreg? LIES!

I guarantee they're not adding them to continue their discrimination of Quad mechs! It's all a conspiracy to keep us down!

[STEF_]

El Bandito, on 18 August 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

Canyon is a mediocre map, actually. Good in terms of visibility and size, but bad in terms of layout.

Visibility is what makes a map good, El.

[Appogee]

Q1: Don't other games/developers manage to implement both IK and hitreg...?

Q2: How long does it take to make a map? Russ first said new maps were "in development" last year. (You may recall that much was made of the fact that map designers had been added to the team.) But now we learn that the first new map will come out in 3 months, and the second next year...?!

Edited by Appogee, 19 August 2017 - 04:42 AM.

[Adridos]

Appogee, on 19 August 2017 - 04:39 AM, said:

Q1: Don't other games/developers manage to implement both IK and hitreg...?

Yes, it's pretty standard stuff since like 2001 or so.

[tauSentry]

SkyHammyr, on 18 August 2017 - 06:17 PM, said:

I love how he says, "We base our design decision on the popularity of the map, how many times it's voted on..."
When Maps like Canyon Network aren't even in the rotation (and unable to be voted on) anymore because they don't work with these new game modes.

Here are the relevant Issues on the community's MWO Issue Tracker...

Wiki: How To Upvote An Issue

Issue Tracker #065: Integrate game mode in the map selection

Issue Tracker #066: Modify the map weights

Issue Tracker #067: Make map selection random

Issue Tracker #121: Select map before modes

Issue Tracker #122: Select mode before maps

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The Community's MWO Issue Tracker tracks the progress of many Bugs, Enhancements, and Feature Requests that you can vote on for PGI to address. This is the community's way of letting PGI know how to best prioritize. PGI engineers check this Issue Tracker.

Recently Fixed:
Issue #027: Drop-Screen Bug Type-B (Outside The Map + Leg Damage)
Issue #028: Drop-Screen Bug Type-C (Stuck Screen)
Issue #016: Allow group-leader to assign another leader

Popular:
Issue #002: Display kill-count in all game modes

See Also...
- Wiki: How To Submit A New Issue
- MWO Issue Tracker is a Pinned Post on /r/OutreachHPG (see PanzerMagier's comment too)
- MWO Issue Tracker listed under Resources at /r/mwo

Edited by tauSentry, 19 August 2017 - 06:53 AM.

[Paigan]

FupDup, on 18 August 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

This really isn't a surprise given that, as far as I've heard, hit reg was the original reason that IK got removed in the first place. As I understand it, the issue is that IK were client-side rather than server-side, meaning that a mech's legs on your screen might actually be somewhere slightly different on the server end. This could result in you shooting something that looks like a perfectly valid target but not doing any damage.

Basically "Ghost Legs."

Thanks for the explanation.
Also makes sense technically.
Hit-reg can't be client-side as it would be prone to lag and cheating.
IK can't be server-side as it would probably cost too much performance and make the animation look ugly due to lag.

[El Bandito]

Stefka Kerensky, on 19 August 2017 - 04:24 AM, said:

Visibility is what makes a map good, El.

It is a very important and attractive aspect, yes, but Canyon's defective map layout excludes it from my top map list.

[jonfett]

Juodas Varnas, on 19 August 2017 - 03:40 AM, said:

BOOOO!

IK not being added due to hitreg? LIES!

I guarantee they're not adding them to continue their discrimination of Quad mechs! It's all a conspiracy to keep us down!

Better tell the Antifa commies to add it to their list of really stupid things to riot about...