#1
Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:49 AM
Ghost Heat Improvements
IS and Clan Medium Laser and Large Laser family will now be merged into one happy family and trigger ghost heat if you fire a combination of lasers dealing more than 40-45 points of damage in a single alpha, which would be about 4 Meds and 2 LL.
This would hopefully balance the Laser Vomit Meta and increase TTK. Or people would just switch to more PPCs and Ballistics, tonnage permitting.
IS and Clan MGs now have ghost heat penalties when firing more than 4 of any combination of machine guns. We can't permit the rise of the 6 MG Arctic Cheetah, which is certainly more deadly to the backs of Atlai than the 6 MG Spider.
Remember when I said that people could use more PPCs with the improvements to Ghost Heat? Yeah, I lied like Arnold Schwarzenegger. We're also adding Medium and Large Lasers to the PPC and Gauss Rifle family. No more gauss vomit either!
Rotary AC ghost heat is fine.
Now for some changes to the weapon XML spreadsheet.
IS AC 10 heat reduced to 2.8
IS AC 10 velocity increased to 975 M/s.
IS AC 10 CD increased to 2.66 seconds.
IS Light Gauss Rifle damage increased to 10.
IS Light Gauss Rifle cooldown increased to 4.5 seconds.
Rotary AC are fine.
Heavy PPC damage decreased to 13. 1 point of splash added.
Heavy PPC heat reduced to 14.
Light PPC heat reduced to 4.
IS Large Laser duration reduced to 1 second.
IS Large Laser cooldown increased to 3.4 seconds.
IS Small Laser damage reduced to 3.
IS Small Laser heat increased to 2.
IS Rocket Launcher spread removed.
IS Rocket Launcher min range increased to 90 meters.
Clan Heavy Large Laser cooldown increased to 7 seconds.
Clan Heavy Large Laser duration reduced to 0.95 seconds
Clan Heavy Medium Laser cooldown increased to 6 seconds.
Clan Heavy Medium Laser duration reduced to 0.75 seconds
Clan Heavy Small Laser cooldown increased to 5.5 seconds
Clan Heavy Small Laser duration reduced to 0.65 seconds
C-ATM velocity reduced to 140 M/s.
C-ATM min range increased to 140M.
C-ATM damage drop off changed. Short range = 2.4 Medium range = 1.60 and Long range = 0.80.
IS Rotary AC are fine.
Along with a few quirk changes and a general nerf to Clan and IS agility to increase TTK what does everybody think of my proposed changes? Would the game still be fun for you if even half of these went live? What would you do to improve MW:O, maybe add Quads or IK?
#3
Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:24 AM
#8
Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:49 AM
Nema Nabojiv, on 23 August 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:
No problem! Easy mistake.
Antares102, on 23 August 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:
Yeah, I'm pretty good at making the ridiculous or stupid sound serious.
I hope that you both got a good laugh out of it now though.
#9
Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:58 AM
#10
Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:02 AM
Cato Zilks, on 23 August 2017 - 08:58 AM, said:
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This thread will wreck your evening, your whole life and your day!
Every single bad idea should be met with much dismay!
So, look away!
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It's hard to fathom how people can manage to get through this,
but how a decent developer like yourself would even want to view it!
There's nothing but horror and inconvenience on the way!
Ask any stable person "should you listen?" and they will say
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Edited by Smites, 23 August 2017 - 09:07 AM.
#11
Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:20 AM
Nerf cqc - mg heat, slas dmg/heat nerf
Nerf missiles - ATMs min range nerf
Buff poke - ER/heavy laser duration buffs, ppc heat buff, gauss dmg buff
So "let me hide behind cover and spit an alpha out very 7-10 seconds without having to worry about retaliation or flanking". LOL. They'll probably do it.
Edited by Judah Malganis, 23 August 2017 - 09:25 AM.
#12
Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:45 AM
Smites, on 23 August 2017 - 09:02 AM, said:
Look Away!
Look Away!
Look Away!
Look Away!
This thread will wreck your evening, your whole life and your day!
Every single bad idea should be met with much dismay!
So, look away!
Look away!
Look away!
It's hard to fathom how people can manage to get through this,
but how a decent developer like yourself would even want to view it!
There's nothing but horror and inconvenience on the way!
Ask any stable person "should you listen?" and they will say
"Look away!"
Look away!
Look away!
Look away!
Look away!
#13
Posted 23 August 2017 - 01:10 PM
Judah Malganis, on 23 August 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:
Nerf cqc - mg heat, slas dmg/heat nerf
Nerf missiles - ATMs min range nerf
Buff poke - ER/heavy laser duration buffs, ppc heat buff, gauss dmg buff
So "let me hide behind cover and spit an alpha out very 7-10 seconds without having to worry about retaliation or flanking". LOL. They'll probably do it.
I am of the firm belief that small lasers, especially small pulse, are still OP despite the recent balance changes. PGI simply didn't go far enough in obliterating this class of weapons.
Also. ATMs are probably one of three good things from Civil War tech. ATMs, RAC (which are fine) and Light Ferro. LFE is just an inferior C-XL, and I'd rather take an IS XL to win the battle with superior firepower or cooling. IS TC is just meh. Stealth armor is OK but niche and mostly a non-threat.
PGI was right to break PPC and Gauss apart so that they can be balanced separately.
#14
Posted 23 August 2017 - 02:08 PM
Smites, on 23 August 2017 - 07:49 AM, said:
Ghost Heat Improvements
IS and Clan Medium Laser and Large Laser family will now be merged into one happy family and trigger ghost heat if you fire a combination of lasers dealing more than 40-45 points of damage in a single alpha, which would be about 4 Meds and 2 LL.
This would hopefully balance the Laser Vomit Meta and increase TTK. Or people would just switch to more PPCs and Ballistics, tonnage permitting.
IS and Clan MGs now have ghost heat penalties when firing more than 4 of any combination of machine guns. We can't permit the rise of the 6 MG Arctic Cheetah, which is certainly more deadly to the backs of Atlai than the 6 MG Spider.
Remember when I said that people could use more PPCs with the improvements to Ghost Heat? Yeah, I lied like Arnold Schwarzenegger. We're also adding Medium and Large Lasers to the PPC and Gauss Rifle family. No more gauss vomit either!
Rotary AC ghost heat is fine.
Now for some changes to the weapon XML spreadsheet.
IS AC 10 heat reduced to 2.8
IS AC 10 velocity increased to 975 M/s.
IS AC 10 CD increased to 2.66 seconds.
IS Light Gauss Rifle damage increased to 10.
IS Light Gauss Rifle cooldown increased to 4.5 seconds.
Rotary AC are fine.
Heavy PPC damage decreased to 13. 1 point of splash added.
Heavy PPC heat reduced to 14.
Light PPC heat reduced to 4.
IS Large Laser duration reduced to 1 second.
IS Large Laser cooldown increased to 3.4 seconds.
IS Small Laser damage reduced to 3.
IS Small Laser heat increased to 2.
IS Rocket Launcher spread removed.
IS Rocket Launcher min range increased to 90 meters.
Clan Heavy Large Laser cooldown increased to 7 seconds.
Clan Heavy Large Laser duration reduced to 0.95 seconds
Clan Heavy Medium Laser cooldown increased to 6 seconds.
Clan Heavy Medium Laser duration reduced to 0.75 seconds
Clan Heavy Small Laser cooldown increased to 5.5 seconds
Clan Heavy Small Laser duration reduced to 0.65 seconds
C-ATM velocity reduced to 140 M/s.
C-ATM min range increased to 140M.
C-ATM damage drop off changed. Short range = 2.4 Medium range = 1.60 and Long range = 0.80.
IS Rotary AC are fine.
Along with a few quirk changes and a general nerf to Clan and IS agility to increase TTK what does everybody think of my proposed changes? Would the game still be fun for you if even half of these went live? What would you do to improve MW:O, maybe add Quads or IK?
Uh, you must be new here. PGI doesnt do balance the same way most companies do marketing research...they just do whatever they want.
Edited by Jun Watarase, 23 August 2017 - 02:26 PM.
#15
Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:33 PM
#16
Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:35 PM
if these were implemented I would ask for ALL my money back and leave the game.
This isn't funny at all.
Edited by KursedVixen, 23 August 2017 - 05:43 PM.
#17
Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:46 PM
KursedVixen, on 23 August 2017 - 05:35 PM, said:
if these were implemented I would ask for ALL my money back and leave the game.
This isn't funny at all.
Aren't all opinions biased?
And how is this not funny? You are reading this like its sharp sarcasm, right? Not something we actually want to see implemented.
Edited by Smites, 23 August 2017 - 06:08 PM.
#19
Posted 23 August 2017 - 06:36 PM
#20
Posted 23 August 2017 - 06:53 PM
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