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[BrunoSSace]

So been pondering and looking for a good IS energy C-bill earner. I like using mediums so what do the Is have to offer. The Griffin Sparky, the Hunchback 4P (s)... is that it? The mech needs more then 5 energy hard points for me to call it an energy boat. The new hellspawn hero looks interesting the Paralysiser. Its only 45 tons but has ecm and jumpjets. I do own the Grasshopper hero but I like an energy heavy medium since i like their play style more. Your thoughts and recommendations for an IS mech that has a c-bill bonus. I have fingers crossed the new loyalty mech might be a energy mech for me. You can say Clan mechs but I will never buy one. Thanks for trying tho

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Top Dog is pretty nice, though its a heavy at 65 tons.

There really aren't many IS energy boat heroes in the medium category.

[MadRover]

the MAD-BH2 is the best IS laser vomit mech in the game hands down. 300LFE, 5isERMLs, and x2 isLPLs.

[Y E O N N E]

If you want to stay in a Medium, the BJ-1X has your number.

OP wants a special 'Mech...uh, I don't think there's anything else in Medium besides the Sparky. Gotta step it up to Heavy for the C-bill lasers, most especially the MAD-BH2, TDR-5S-T, and RGH-R.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 02 September 2017 - 06:28 PM.

[El Bandito]

The Paralyzer is a good 45 tonner, and arguably the best Hellspawn variant. ECM with 6 energy. Too bad it is behind paywall--typical PGI.

Edited by El Bandito, 02 September 2017 - 08:02 PM.

[FLG 01]

The Sparky is actually a good Mech, so I would recommend it.
Although it has not been mentioned (yet) I think I should point out that the Tempest is not a good energy boat even though it has six energy hardpoints and ECM. You can do it, sure, but compared to the other options it does not make much sense.

El Bandito, on 02 September 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

The Paralyzer is a good 45 tonner, and arguably the best Hellspawn varaint. ECM with 6 energy. Too bad it is behind paywall--typical PGI.

To be fair... as much as I dislike the choice of the Hellspawn, the Hero Mech is only the logical consequence of it; the hardpoints are an accurate recreation of Halperin's Mech (as far as MWO allows). To be honest the fact that the (more or less) canonical Hero Mech is better than the regular variants is just another reason the Hellspawn should not have been chosen... but I digress.

[N0ni]

CRB-27 ®

CRB-27B (S)

Two other choices not yet mentioned and good enough.

[Snowbluff]

I don't know if it's good, but I run 3 LPL and 3 LMG on my High Roller.

Also didn't know 2 LPL 5 ERML was good on BH2. I'll have to try it out.

[Magnificent and Crepuscular]

I think the Sparky (Griffin Hero) is the only IS Medium hero with 6 energy hard points. the rest max out at 4.

Stepping up to the Thunderbolt Top Dog or the Catapult Jester is a decent compromise. You can run a 315 rated engine in the Top Dog and move 78.5, which is a medium-ish speed. You also have almost 25 tons free for weapons and 9 Energy hard points. It's also more medium sized, unlike your super-tall Grasshopper.

Energy Boat: Looks hot, but no ghost heat (don't pay attention to the CT/LT/RT armor, just max it).
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...696aef9f886b8da

The Jester has 6 energy points and has a smaller silhouette still, and can mount up to a 355 class engine and 2 jump jets. The 2 arm hard points are also decently high-mounted as well. I don't have the Jester, but the other Catapults are fairly competent Mechs, and I know a few people that love their Jesters.

If you aren't stuck on IS, the Pakhet (Huntsman) and Mishipeshu (Stormcrow) can be built into an energy boat with the right Omni-pods. And of course, there's the Nova, the ultimate energy boat.

Edited by Magnificent and Crepuscular, 02 September 2017 - 08:46 PM.

[Magnificent and Crepuscular]

N0ni, on 02 September 2017 - 08:26 PM, said:

CRB-27 ®

CRB-27B (S)

Two other choices not yet mentioned and good enough.

These are not heros, which is what he asked for. Resistance variants DO earn 30% more CBills, but have to be purchased thru packages for real $$, and I assume he has the MC saved up to make the purchase.

[N0ni]

Magnificent and Crepuscular, on 02 September 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

These are not heros, which is what he asked for. Resistance variants DO earn 30% more CBills, but have to be purchased thru packages for real $$, and I assume he has the MC saved up to make the purchase.

Heroes/Special mechs

They count in the special category.

[El Bandito]

FLG 01, on 02 September 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Although it has not been mentioned (yet) I think I should point out that the Tempest is not a good energy boat even though it has six energy hardpoints and ECM. You can do it, sure, but compared to the other options it does not make much sense.

Tempest suffers from bad hitboxes and low cockpit--something the Paralyzer has less issue with.

[BrunoSSace]

Magnificent and Crepuscular, on 02 September 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Energy Boat: Looks hot, but no ghost heat (don't pay attention to the CT/LT/RT armor, just max it).
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...696aef9f886b8da

This is nearly exactly what im after, shame its a heavy tho. The reason I kinda don't want a heavy is because of the add wait times. Wonder if I should just suck it up and buy the steam medium package with the Hunchback 4P (S) in it. The 9 Er Medium Lazors on it are amazingly good.

No they don't need to heros in game I am happy to buy a resistance hero or mech if it comes close to what I'm after. Kinda looks like the Hellspawn hero might be what im after but will need to do some more research.

Edited by BrunoSSace, 02 September 2017 - 08:54 PM.

[qS Sachiel]

Top dog is great but as said above it can make your drop decks slightly heavy.

[MadRover]

Snowbluff, on 02 September 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

Also didn't know 2 LPL 5 ERML was good on BH2. I'll have to try it out.

It is. Put the LPLs on the arms on both sides and then put the ERMLs everywhere else. I used to run it with x2LPLs (one on each arm) and 5isMLs with a std300 and it was very good. The isERMLs made it amazing. Its the only real way to run the MAD-BH2 IMO

[The6thMessenger]

SPARKY Laser Vomit

[Gagis]

N0ni, on 02 September 2017 - 08:26 PM, said:

CRB-27 ®

CRB-27B (S)

Two other choices not yet mentioned and good enough.

Both of these are very good at laser vomit with a decent number of hardpoints, good hitboxes and good mobility. The downside is that the arm hardpoints are really damn far below the cockpit. The 27® with 2x LPL, 3 ERML and LFE280 is one of my highest performing mechs despite the awkward hardpoint placement.

[Sandpit]

Crab. Hands down. Fits the exact profile of what you're wanting.

EDIT:
You can outfit it to run every role. Squirrel hunter, harrasser, flanker, counter-flanker. You can get it to over 100/kph if wanted, great slim profile, ams, dual ams, JJs. It will go toe to toe with anything in its class clan or otherwise honestly. It just depends on how you decide to out fit it.

I like going with MPLs most times, but I've run 3LLs, MLs, LPLs, and just about everything in between. The new skill tree lets you just desk it out perfectly and you have zero heat issues, especially when compared to the other mechs it commonly goes against.

Edited by Sandpit, 03 September 2017 - 01:02 AM.

[Lykaon]

Crab 27...

I have a zombie crab build that is 300 std engine 15 DHS 5 ER medium lasers 2 AMS 2 tons AMS ammo ferro/endo.

Best medium weight tank there is with it's 100+ kph speed 50% heat efficiency and three weapons mounted CT and Head. add in the twin AMS and it weathers LRM/ATM fire like a boss.

She ain't flashy and she won't be blowing holes through assault mechs quickly but what it will do is keep going long after most other highly tuned bleeding edge tech mechs are hobbled and over heating.

[Nema Nabojiv]

El Bandito, on 02 September 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

The Paralyzer is a good 45 tonner, and arguably the best Hellspawn variant. ECM with 6 energy. Too bad it is behind paywall--typical PGI.

Same as that ECM phoenix hawk we have already just with different geometry.