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[King Kahuna]

Spheroid, on 27 August 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

Please don't reward bad behavior. MWO is no longer the sole Battletech product. Give instead to turned based game by Harebrained.

I cant . I detest turn based games.

[Naglinator]

Jackofallpots, on 28 August 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

I wouldnt mind a game that only takes 14 hours to complete as long as there is plenty of replayability

Thats something a lot of games lack though nowadays

Same people who make the VIP AI will be making the MW5 AI... yeah I'm sure their will be tonnes of replayability...

[JediPanther]

I want only one thing from mw5. Steam workshop support. PGi can make mw5 as crapy as they can. Modders can make it worth playing and fun and hopefully last years like skyrim and fallout. They do that and I might buy one of the ultimate collector mwo packs.

[Smites]

Lets try to change this into something more constructive. How many shiny things would PGI need to put into MW:V preorder to get you to buy it early? To say nothing of the quality (or lack thereof) of the finish product. Remember. It may be good.

[Jackofallpots]

Cockpit items, paintjobs and decals arent enough to pique my interest

The thing that would completely turn me off from the game though is if you had to buy the mechs through DLC to use them in a singleplayer game, like I've seen done with some racing games.

[Karl Streiger]

preorder bonus goal? open for mods

[Jay Leon Hart]

Karl Streiger, on 29 August 2017 - 07:27 AM, said:

preorder bonus goal? open for mods

If you mean the same pre-order milestone incentives they tried to pull with Deus Ex Mankind Divided, hell to the no.

[Nemesis Duck]

CMDR Sunset Shimmer, on 27 August 2017 - 03:15 PM, said:

What did Bethesdia and Obsidian do?

Skyrim Super Awesome OMG Edition - Jan 2018 (Where's Black Marsh!)

Juodas Varnas, on 28 August 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

I'm not gonna lie, i'd pay more than 60 bucks if it had Quads in it.

I heard there's tri-walkers but no quads.

Appogee, on 27 August 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

My low expectations for MW5 are entirely based on my 5 years of experience of being a PGI customer at a quite high level of expenditure.

What have I actually observed during those 5 years of MWO development...?

• Pervasive 'mimimal viable product' mentality and lack of concern for quality control.
  
• Consistent over-commitment and under-delivery of key development features (in the case of CW, actual deliberate deception about development progress and intent).
  
• Little leverage of BT lore that could have made the game much deeper.
  
• Complicated/unintuitive new balancing mechanics (eg ghost heat) instead of simpler solutions.
  
• Copy/pasting cliched game ideas (eg. loot crate/roulette wheel/keys), without even the minimal modification (eg. battle salvage/technicians) that would make them appropriate to the game.
  
• Long periods of imbalance/issues followed by wild balancing over-corrections.
  
• Ignoring and then isolating themselves from customer feedback, other than a small echo chamber of paid cheerleaders.
  
• Significant map and mode design issues that have never been addressed (eg. Escort AI, FP maps).
  
• Ignoring significant underlying quality of life features requested by customers (eg. skill tree saving, loadout saving) in favour of trivial things that can be sold (eg bolt-ons).
  
• Ongoing efforts to increase grind and reduce the value provided to customers in virtual currency, early adopter packs, leaderboard comps.

I desperately want MWO - and MW5 - to be all that they can be. For PGI to be a wildly successful game developer. For all of us to be happy, high-spending customers... introducing new generations of players to the franchise we love.

For that to happen, PGI would need to rethink it's approach to game development.

I love you, man.

Edited by Nemesis Duck, 29 August 2017 - 09:21 AM.

[AncientRaig]

TLBFestus, on 28 August 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

Can I get some of what your smoking? Check out HBS track record before you paint PGI as the messiah.

I'm not painting PGI as the messiah. All I'm saying is that HBS has only made turn-based tactical RPGs and one third person Rougelike. They do good work, but they've never attempted something like an MW5. And if you're referring to me saying that HBS wouldn't have been able to make BATTLETECH without the success of MWO, that's not my words. That's straight from HBS themselves.

[Metus regem]

Imperius, on 27 August 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Already asked Russ to make it happen on twitter

I'll ask him at MechCon, when he can't pretend to miss the question.

[Smites]

Metus regem, on 29 August 2017 - 12:20 PM, said:

I'll ask him at MechCon, when he can't pretend to miss the question.

He can't pretend to miss the question, but he can pretend he gave you a real answer.

Just like you can ask your local government officials questions at a town hall. They will answer, but it either won't mean anything, won't make sense, or you'll still be ignored as they move onto somebody elses question.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Naglinator, on 28 August 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Same people who make the VIP AI will be making the MW5 AI... yeah I'm sure their will be tonnes of replayability...

The VIP has nothing AI , its only a dice Roll mechanic for the Route ...
lets seeing the Company Game History ...great Experience for a MW5 (and Die Hard:Nakotami Place and Transformers big Fails and Flops (wikipedia)

Games developed

• MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
  
• Bass Pro Shops: The Strike (Xbox 360, Wii, Windows)
  
• Duke Nukem Forever (Windows, Xbox 360, PS3) - multiplayer part and console ports^[6]
  
• MechWarrior Online (Windows)
  
• Die Hard: Nakatomi Plaza (Windows)
  
• EA Playground (Nintendo DS)
  
• Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 (PSP)
  
• Need For Speed: Undercover (PSP)
  
• Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Windows, Xbox 360, PS3)
  
• Bass Pro Shops: The Hunt (Xbox 360, Wii, PC)

PGI is like other Companys...great Words ,and minimal products

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 29 August 2017 - 08:03 PM.

[Cptn Goodvibes Pig of Steel]

Oh great! Get first in line for a sh#t sandwich. I'll give it a miss. Thanks, but no thanks.