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[stealthraccoon]

You did not spend wisely; quantity doesn't equal quality.

[Brain Cancer]

It probably would go over well if you ended up with top tier either being "Buy this big ol' superdeluxe pack" OR "Buy any three of these not-so-big-but-you-kept-buying-them packs".

Some people's wallets can't open in huge gaping dollar chunks, but they may well be able to (and loyally) be dropping a 20 here, a 20 there...to the point of spending like the fellow who got the high roller pack and then never another bit.

stealthraccoon, on 14 September 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

You did not spend wisely; quantity doesn't equal quality.

Quantity has a quality of it's own.

[MadRover]

Viktor Drake, on 14 September 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

Thanks PGI. I am so glad that any dippy do that spends $80 and buys two collectors packs trumps my $250-$300 investment in the game. Way to make me feel great for being a loyal customer.

Seriously, this is some BS yet again this year. Why does it not surprise me that PGI would pull the same crap even when there were a hundred posts complaining about this last year.

This honestly just makes me want to flip PGI the bird rather than spend more money. Good Job PGI marketing team, you succeeded in making one of your top spenders, look for other places to spend his money.

Lets not forget the Victor and the Kit Fox both mechs that are kinda meh but hey! The Urbie everyone should be getting is only 7$ American.

[Stonefalcon]

I've bought 1 standard Uziel pack, 1 standard Mad-Cat MK2 pack, 5 standard Annihilator packs, 2 collectors Annihilator packs, 1 Ultimate Annihilator pack. $100 of MC, 3 IS Heros but I don't qualify for the Clan top teir pack. FML

[Angel of Annihilation]

Bud Crue, on 14 September 2017 - 04:21 PM, said:

This is just silly.

I spent more money than that on contests rewards and oh me, oh my, not one penny of that goes toward my "loyalty" rewards. I feel so snubbed. Insulted even! Actually, no. Not even a tiny bit.

See, my spending gets other people their loyalty rewards, but that isn't some nasty ploy on PGI's part to make me feel ripped off, or whatever. It isn't a snub, rather, that is how it works. Just as if I want a loyalty reward, I need to buy what PGI says I should buy. It's their game, it's their program. It's that simple. Moreover the precedent from last year ought to have been a loud and clear message to you as to what needed to be done in order to qualify this year.

Edit. Also, stop making me defend PGI. It's making me very uncomfortable damn it.

Or they can reward good customers for being good customers, how about that? Sorry don't care how you want to frame it, I am being told my money spent isn't good enough and yes it is insulting. You don't call a program a "Loyalty" program then tell your loyal customers to screw off because they didn't spend their hard earned money the way you wanted them to spend it.

Bishop Steiner, on 14 September 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Hey dad... can I have ice cream for breakfast.... I'll consider it son... NO.

*shrugs* If they never said they would change it, then people expecting them to only have themselves to blame thinking that they would.

Totally agree. It isn't about expecting they would or thinking they would it is about hoping that PGI was smart enough to realized the fracked up last year and would correct their mistake. PGI didn't so some of us, myself included are a bit miffed about it. If they want to encourage me NOT to spend money, then their plans are working out marvelously.

[chucklesMuch]

I don't qualify for the Top IS... but didn't expect to... guess i could upgrade my jav & orsis orders... not so much for the victor... but for the bag pipes... lol

[Bishop Steiner]

Viktor Drake, on 14 September 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

Or they can reward good customers for being good customers, how about that? Sorry don't care how you want to frame it, I am being told my money spent isn't good enough and yes it is insulting. You don't call a program a "Loyalty" program then tell your loyal customers to screw off because they didn't spend their hard earned money the way you wanted them to spend it.



Totally agree. It isn't about expecting they would or thinking they would it is about hoping that PGI was smart enough to realized the fracked up last year and would correct their mistake. PGI didn't so some of us, myself included are a bit miffed about it. If they want to encourage me NOT to spend money, then their plans are working out marvelously.

So because you didn't get all the free stuffs, you'll stop buying the stuff you wanted to buy in the first place? Or were you buying stuff just in hopes of getting the free stuffs? Kind of curious? Because if it's the first... then it shouldn't impact your spending habit,s or lack thereof, at all. And if it's the latter, then well, you were making a dumb assumption.

So, which is it?

[FupDup]

stealthraccoon, on 14 September 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

You did not spend wisely; quantity doesn't equal quality.

Viktor actually spent more wisely because the $20 packs offer a much more efficient value per dollar than the collector or ultimate packs.

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 14 September 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

Viktor actually spent more wisely because the $20 packs offer a much more efficient value per dollar than the collector or ultimate packs.

This is true.

As I've long told Russ... they need to reduce Collector to $10 or allow us to choose which Variant gets the Token...or both.

As it is now, the ONLY reason to go Collector, is if you just know you will love the base model so much you want the CBill boost. Or I suppose if you are Pokemech Addled and have to have all the silly Loyalty/Annual crap.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 September 2017 - 07:08 PM.

[PAYWALL]

You have to spend even MOAR!!!

[Brain Cancer]

MadRover, on 14 September 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Lets not forget the Victor and the Kit Fox both mechs that are kinda meh but hey! The Urbie everyone should be getting is only 7$ American.

The -1A1 gets to do some pretty not-so-meh lineups considering it's the rare bird that could (if you felt silly) mount two Heavy Gauss WITH a UAC/20, thanks to three ballistic points spread across an arm and each side torso. That's how roomy it is for ballistic builds.

Oh, and it can jump. Triple AC/10 would be kinda fun to dunk with.

[Ruccus]

chucklesMuch, on 14 September 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

I don't qualify for the Top IS... but didn't expect to... guess i could upgrade my jav & orsis orders... not so much for the victor... but for the bag pipes... lol

While I can't speak for the 'Yappy Alien Dog' paint job on the collector Osiris, I love the paint job on my JVN-10N(S) and love the Javelin's warhorns. For the Osiris though I think I'll change the yellow to purple and call my OSR-3D(S) the 'Purple People Eater'.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 September 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

So because you didn't get all the free stuffs, you'll stop buying the stuff you wanted to buy in the first place? Or were you buying stuff just in hopes of getting the free stuffs? Kind of curious? Because if it's the first... then it shouldn't impact your spending habit,s or lack thereof, at all. And if it's the latter, then well, you were making a dumb assumption.

So, which is it?

Your missing the point. It is about feeling good about your purchases. Right now I don't. I have quite a few posts on these forums telling alot of entitled F2P players to stop whining and spend money on the game to "Support it" with their wallets quite simply because if we don't spend money on the game, there isn't a game. Therefore, when I have seen a mech pack I thought might be interesting, I have said, "What the hell, If I buy this I am supporting the game I enjoy" and dropped my $20 on it. I don't need the mech because I have 160+ of them. I don't need the premium time because I got the better part of a year either qued or banked up. I don't need to buy the hero mech either because I have 44 mechs with that C-bill bonus in my stable. However, the mech pack looks interesting AND I am supporting the game so I spend money. That is loyalty Bish.

However when PGI rewards some Joe Schmo for picking up a couple "Collectors Packs" and tells me that my significantly higher investment into the game is worthless because I didn't buy Collectors Packs, well that kind of cools the desire to buy something just because I am supporting the game. Will I stop all purchasing? Don't know, can't say. Will this BS stop me from going, "What the hell, I am supporting the game after all" and buying a mech pack just because I have the extra cash floating around? Yeah, I think so. If PGI is going to treat my $300 investment as nothing special when they are giving out "Loyalty" rewards, why should I be loyal and give them my money?

Edited by Viktor Drake, 14 September 2017 - 07:37 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Viktor Drake, on 14 September 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

Your missing the point. It is about feeling good about your purchases. Right now I don't. I have quite a few posts on these forums telling alot of entitled F2P players to stop whining and spend money on the game to "Support" it quite simply because if we don't spend money on the game, there isn't a game. Therefore, when I have seen a mech pack I thought might be interesting, I have said, "What the hell, If I buy this I am supporting the game I enjoy" and dropped my $20 on it. I don't need the mech because I have 160+ of them. I don't need the premium time because I got the better part of a year either qued or banked up. I don't need to buy the hero mech either because I have 44 mechs with that C-bill bonus in my stable. However, the mech pack looks interesting AND I am supporting the game so I spend money. That is loyalty Bish.

However when PGI rewards some Joe Schmo for picking up a couple "Collectors Packs" and tells me that my significantly higher investment into the game is worthless because I didn't buy Collectors Packs, well that kind of cools the desire to buy something just because I am supporting the game. Will I stop all purchasing? Don't know, can't say. Will this BS stop me from going, "What the hell, I am supporting the game after all" and buying a mech pack just because I have the extra cash floating around? Yeah, I think so. If PGI is going to treat my $300 investment as nothing special when they are giving out "Loyalty" rewards, why should I be loyal and give them my money?

No, actually I'm not.

Because it's about feeling entitled. If you don't feel good about your purchase because you didn't get free crap later, than you probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place. What you are doing is going...oh other people are getting free **** and I'm not.. that's not fair.. so now the stuff I bought isn't good enough!

FFS people.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 September 2017 - 07:37 PM.

[InvictusLee]

Rampage, on 14 September 2017 - 04:28 PM, said:

They do not even call them "Loyalty" rewards anymore. They are just targeted rewards for buying certain things during the year.

THIS

[Bishop Steiner]

November11th, on 14 September 2017 - 07:38 PM, said:

THIS

Yup. They listened to the complaints. people were butthurt that people felt they were not being called "loyal" enough... so they removed that name....cuz they don't wanna hurt anybody's tender lil feelings.

[Splatshot]

Least this year its a full year, year 2 i got shafted as it was only a 9 month year.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 September 2017 - 07:35 PM, said:

No, actually I'm not.

Because it's about feeling entitled. If you don't feel good about your purchase because you didn't get free crap later, than you probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place. What you are doing is going...oh other people are getting free **** and I'm not.. that's not fair.. so now the stuff I bought isn't good enough!

FFS people.

Nope, your totally off the mark. I am like, "What the hell? I have been feeding money into this game for years and this is how I get treated?". I guess you don't understand what loyalty is. Loyalty is earned.

What I feel bad about is every time my purchase was swayed by the argument that I convinced myself to buy based on the fact I was supporting the game. I am not going to pretend that was my only reason for buying but I did spend more than I would have otherwise because I felt my purchase was supporting the game.

Also have you ever heard the phrase, "It is the principle"? That is what I am coming up against right now. One or two mechs isn't a big deal and while it would be nice to have the Linebacker and Victor, it isn't like I am going to notice them not being there all that much, not with 160+ other mechs to play at my whim, however it is the principle of the matter than is bothering me and fair does absolutely come into play. No, I don't feel it is a fair reward program and this goes back to what I said in the other thread I have been debating you in, the program is a flop. It is creating negativity when the whole point of the program should be to create positivity. It doesn't cost PGI a dime to revise the program to insure anyone who has invested significantly into their game gets the Top Tier reward. Two collectors packs is $80, ok fine. Make the qualification 2 collectors packs or 4 basic packs. Pretty damn simple solution to the problem and these thread spouting fire, brimestone and negativity never even pop up. Instead you have happy players who are going to keep spending money rather than being pissed off about a program that should only be creating positive impressions.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 14 September 2017 - 08:11 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

keep telling yourself that bro. You're only lying to yourself. The simple fact you are stamping your foot, and stating you'd rather see EVERYONE screwed out of receiving anything, because you didn't do what qualified you to receive EVERYTHING, speaks all the volumes about what your "principle" truly is.

[Kaveli]

definitely spent more then the minimum. Didn't qualify for top tier. Probably should just put a $$$ value TBH. $100 for top tier for everything?