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[The6thMessenger]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mad_Cat_III

So Timber-Wolf not only has big brothers, but a little brother too. The Mad-Cat III is a 55-ton mech, and is just so god damn adorable. It'd be nice to finally have another 55-tonner for Clans.

What do you think? If it got into the game, does it spell the death of Stormcrow?

Before you ask, I'm more than happy to be a Wolf-in-Exile.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 19 September 2017 - 11:03 PM.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

There needs to be another option in the 55 tonne bracket. The stormcrow will never die my friend
I'd prefer this Timber in terms of choice but the SCR has a great profile/shape and now can unleash unreasonable amounts of firepower.

[Spheroid]

Sorry uses experimental endo-composite structure not available in MWO.

[Bombast]

A tired concept with non-existent tech and poor hitboxes.

Don't bait the sharks.

[Paigan]

The6thMessenger, on 19 September 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mad_Cat_III

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What do you think?
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I think:

1.) Naming Clan Mechs "Mad Cat" originally is an inconsistency and shows that whoever came up with them has no sufficient understanding of the lore he/she wants to add to. How those could ever become canon is beyond me.

2.) Creating "II" and even "III" variants of the same Mech is mostly a childish overhype. There's a simple rule that helps to judge if something is reasonable: Imagine, everyone did it. In this case: imagine there were hords of "II", "III" and even "IV" Mechs. Mission briefings like "We'll take some Mad Cat Is as the backbone, some Mad Cat IIs as heavy hitters and some Mad Cat III as fast complements." Everyone would role their eyes and think "WTF, why is the III lighter than the II and why can't you people just use proper names instead of just assigning enumerations of the same name over and over? Are you d*mb or something?"

I don't get why this has to be explained, in the first place. Overhyped and even in multiple ways inconsistent enumerations of the same thing is a half-baked, counterproductive, unnecessary complicated thing (in short: "childish").
It should be obvious for adult people.

[Juodas Varnas]

Ugh... ANOTHER Mad Cat?
Don't we have enough of those things already?

[Bombast]

Paigan, on 19 September 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

I don't get why this has to be explained, in the first place.

I don't know why this had to be 'explained' either. My confusion comes from how out of the left field this rant is though, and how off topic it is.

The whole child/adult thing is confusing too, but whatever floats your boat, as they say.

[Black Ivan]

Just to tell it, the Mech is produced 3086 the earliest, even farther into the future than we are now and with even more advanced tech

[Sjorpha]

Apart from the tech being too advanced and the timeline way off it seems a bit silly to have another design clone of the timber wolf, I can't really suspend my disbelief on this one, it looks too much like some kid in love with the timber made it up.

It would be extremely good of course, with 10 energy hardpoints, 6 torso mounted, on the prime variant. It would be run without missile pods as another torso mounted laser vomit thing. Not sure how that is what we need.

[Luminis]

Now I really want to know how Paigan feels about Supermarine's naming scheme for the Spitfires & Seafires.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Juodas Varnas, on 19 September 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

Ugh... ANOTHER Mad Cat?
Don't we have enough of those things already?

I want to know where the Madcat IV is. We need yet another Madcat, and this time it needs to be a Light Mech so that we can have a Madcat in every weight class.

The Madcat III is ok. I liked the original the best, and that is in the game. The Madcat MKII is also cool, and that is here too. I feel content with my Madcat choices.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 20 September 2017 - 02:54 AM.

[Battlemaster56]

Ill take 20 also whilw it uses future tech, Ill gladly take it over the crow just through namesake and it's legacy it came fourth.

Also I already consider myself a Wolf in Exile just waiting for the faction to come fourth do I can fight on the side of the IS with clan tech, if lucky enough bring a few IS mech with my clan toys.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Paigan, on 19 September 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

I think:

1.) Naming Clan Mechs "Mad Cat" originally is an inconsistency and shows that whoever came up with them has no sufficient understanding of the lore he/she wants to add to. How those could ever become canon is beyond me.
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You mean instead of Timberwolf MKII and Timberwolf III?

I think it was because the mechs were also designed to appeal to the Inner Sphere for potential sales. Although the MKII was originally thought to be sold to Clan Wolf and Clan jade Falcon, those Clans essentially passed on the mech and very few other clans bought them or even looked at them. Because of the lack of interest in the MKII by the Clans, it was sold to the Draconis Combine, Federated Commonwealth, and Lyran Aliance as well.

Marketing the mech as a Madcat MKII to the InnerSphere was probably a good idea since that name was pretty infamous to them.

The same went for the Madcat III since right out the gate it was intended to be sold to the Inner Sphere a long with potential Clan clients as well.

The maker of both the MKII and III was Clan Diamond Shark, and it seemed like they were all about making the sale no matter who was buying.

So, in a way, the name of Madcat over Timberwolf sort of makes sense (especially after the clans generally showed disinterest in the MKII). If you are Clan DS and you are going to approach an IS house with a mech contract, you know that the IS house's eyes are going to light up when you say Madcat .

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 20 September 2017 - 03:07 AM.

[Bombast]

MeiSooHaityu, on 20 September 2017 - 03:06 AM, said:

SNIP

It could also simply be because the Diamond Sharks realize the Inner Sphere is so much better at naming mechs than the Clans, and that Mad Cat is so much better than Timber Wolf.

I mean, some on. Summoner or Thor? Dire Whale Wolf or Daishi? Gargoyle or Man O'War (Still salty I can't call a Gargoyle its proper IS name without most people wondering what in the hell I'm talking about)? The choice is obvious - Inner Sphere Names are better.

Edited by Bombast, 20 September 2017 - 06:09 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Bombast, on 20 September 2017 - 06:02 AM, said:

It could also simply be because the Diamond Sharks realize the Inner Sphere is so much better at naming mechs than the Clans, and that Mac Cat is so much better than Timber Wolf.

I mean, some on. Summoner or Thor? Dire Whale Wolf or Daishi? Gargoyle or Man O'War (Still salty I can't call a Gargoyle its proper IS name without most people wondering what in the hell I'm talking about)? The choice is obvious - Inner Sphere Names are better.

Very true!

I do get the name Timberwolf though. I mean, it was sort of Clan Wolf's baby (designed by Clan Wolf) in a way, so I understand why they would want to name it after a wolf. I bet it killed them to learn the Inner Sphere was calling it a cat instead lol.

Maybe that is another reason why the subsequent models were called by the IS name too. After Clan Wolf's loss in the Refusal War (and the disgrace that came with it like Clan Wolf in Exile), maybe they didn't want to associate subsequent models with the Clan Wolf name. *shrug*

[Snowbluff]

It's MAD-CAT because
1) Interclan copyright and trademark law is a *****
2) More people (ie, the iS), know the original as the Madcat

Also I would love a 55 ton jumpy stormcrow. :3
#madcatIII2017

[Andi Nagasia]

did the TBR ever have a Light Variant?

TBR = Heavy,
TBR-Mk2 = Assault,
TBR-Mk3 = Medium,

but did they ever have a Light Timby?

(Runs off Screaming) {to the Drawing Boards!!!}

[MeiSooHaityu]

Andi Nagasia, on 20 September 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

did the TBR ever have a Light Variant?

TBR = Heavy,
TBR-Mk2 = Assault,
TBR-Mk3 = Medium,

but did they ever have a Light Timby?

(Runs off Screaming) {to the Drawing Boards!!!}

Nope...not yet anyway

I sense a Madcat IV coming inbound!

Just had a thought...Clan Diamond Shark retools the Cougar and moves the LRM launchers up on the shoulders instead of in them. Calls it a Madcat IV .

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 20 September 2017 - 07:31 AM.

[Bombast]

MeiSooHaityu, on 20 September 2017 - 07:29 AM, said:

I sense a Madcat IV coming inbound!

Just had a thought...Clan Diamond Shark retools the Cougar and moves the LRM launchers up on the shoulders instead of in them. Calls it a Madcat IV .

There's already a Mk IV. It's essentially a Tech3+ Timber Wolf (75 tonner).

http://www.sarna.net...i/Mad_Cat_Mk_IV

3136, if you don't want to check the link.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Bombast, on 20 September 2017 - 07:35 AM, said:

There's already a Mk IV. It's essentially a Tech3+ Timber Wolf (75 tonner).

http://www.sarna.net...i/Mad_Cat_Mk_IV

3136, if you don't want to check the link.

Ugh! They already ruined the naming convention! Ok, MadCat V then.

Actually, maybe we are still good. That is a Madcat MK IV, make the light simply Madcat IV! I think we are good now lol.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 20 September 2017 - 07:42 AM.