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[VonBruinwald]

So what's going to happen if we take an Urbie and fire our lock-ons while facing 180 to the target?

That's one heck of a curve... or maybe our launchers will just implode...

[Bombast]

Pretty sure there's a limit to how fast and how much the LRMs can course correct. I imagine they wont even make it back to the 'right' 180 degree arc, let alone the target.

[The Lurm Wurm]

Good luck maintaining the lock for as long as it takes to rotate the torso 180 degrees.

[VonBruinwald]

The Lurm Wurm, on 10 October 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Good luck maintaining the lock for as long as it takes to rotate the torso 180 degrees.

The Urbie takes 2.6s for a full spin, 5 nodes of decay is 3.5s.

Missiles coming in sideways is a real possibility.

[N0ni]

Target decay means nothing if you're not locking on the red square. That just means red squares remain visible for a longer duration after breaking LoS, not taking into account radar dep.

So yeah, good luck with that.

[The6thMessenger]

With the weight of launchers? It's probably not a good idea. It has the same merit of the AC20 in an urbanmech, you can run it at all for a light, but it wouldn't be any good.

[MadRover]

Please don’t use LRMs on the Urbie. Just don’t......

[panzer1b]

If it was clam, i could totally see something like ATMs, but IS has no good missile system besides SRMs, and there are far better SRM mechs like the javelin or assasin. Itll be unique and interesting, but i doubt itll ever be as viable as something like laser vomit which ive seen do insane damage and kills (i dont own a K9 so i cant really say entirely how good they can be).

That and while i personally would never even consider using it, i can almost bet someone will find a way to shove a LRM30 or so into it .

[stealthraccoon]

ALRM10x2 + lasers!
(Okay fine, skip the Artemis and go for LRM20 and a trio of erSL and a 170XL)

Edited by stealthraccoon, 10 October 2017 - 07:56 PM.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

N0ni, on 10 October 2017 - 12:48 PM, said:

Target decay means nothing if you're not locking on the red square. That just means red squares remain visible for a longer duration after breaking LoS, not taking into account radar dep.

So yeah, good luck with that.

I did a quick test in testing grounds on Nova which had few target decay modules.

First lock target. If I move the aim off from the target, the lock broke in the time dictated by the modules. If I did the same but moved the torso so far off from the target, the lock broke immediately. So the same thing would happen to Urbie, as the lock breaks before you even manage to turn your torso fully.

The only "awesome" thing LRM urbie could do, is run away from target while lurming backwards. And Urbie won't have enough tonnage to do that well enough.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Honestly though, the missile urbie will be...I'd be excited to run it with a MRM40.

If it can run an AC20, who knows how great it'd be with a MRM40? Those things hit harder and fire faster, and are lighter to boot!

[The6thMessenger]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 10 October 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

Honestly though, the missile urbie will be...I'd be excited to run it with a MRM40.

If it can run an AC20, who knows how great it'd be with a MRM40? Those things hit harder and fire faster, and are lighter to boot!

Being already 2 tons less than an AC20 means it's already much more sustainaible, i can run AC10s with 2 tons of ammo, I bet that would work just fine with MRM40s.

[Vellron2005]

The Lurm Wurm, on 10 October 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Good luck maintaining the lock for as long as it takes to rotate the torso 180 degrees.

This.

[VonBruinwald]

The Lurm Wurm, on 10 October 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Good luck maintaining the lock for as long as it takes to rotate the torso 180 degrees.

Just checked again, 0.82s to reach 180° if you both turn and spin at the same. Can't remember the amount of time it takes to lose a lock but it's about 1.5s, plenty of time for an implosion!

[MadRover]

panzer1b, on 10 October 2017 - 07:19 PM, said:

If it was clam, i could totally see something like ATMs, but IS has no good missile system besides SRMs, and there are far better SRM mechs like the javelin or assasin. Itll be unique and interesting, but i doubt itll ever be as viable as something like laser vomit which ive seen do insane damage and kills (i dont own a K9 so i cant really say entirely how good they can be).

That and while i personally would never even consider using it, i can almost bet someone will find a way to shove a LRM30 or so into it .

Don’t encourage people to use LRMs the on the Urbie. It’ll make me sad and I know who to blame

[Brain Cancer]

You could also have someone jump over you and land behind you. Assuming they come in just over your head, that should be enough time to launch at someone directly behind you before lock loss.

[stealthraccoon]

Well we could request that it only have 1 missile tube, that would drag out an LRM20 to an amusing duration...

[Mole]

I can't remember the exact build but I figured out a decent looking MRM build for it using all the math I could muster to theorycraft it. And don't tell me that MRMs suck. My Catapult has been a much better 'mech since I dropped its SRM6s for MRM30s.

[Trenchbird]

stealthraccoon, on 11 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

Well we could request that it only have 1 missile tube, that would drag out an LRM20 to an amusing duration...

I feel the MRM-40 would be even more funny.

[BrunoSSace]

It should be a good Mrm carrier. But guess time will tell.