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#1 MovinTarget

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:01 AM

So the other day I was accused of using hax in a FP game... perhaps the first time I think anyone has said that about me.

Anyone who knows me would find this laughable. True, I was having a better than average game (2.8k dmg) but I want to edumacate those that aren't aware of a simple (and well known) game behavior that is available for use... and to be used against you....

On hot maps like Sulphurous and Caustic, heat vision is AMAZING. For sniping anyway. Mechs at a distance... a ridicuous distance will, contrast out to a black object against the background. you can train your eye to be very observant and notice them about to poke out before they can even see you! (their legs/arms/shoulders will poke out b4 their head typically)

Play on those hot maps with heat vision on and you will see why some guys do so well on those maps...

Edited by MovinTarget, 17 November 2017 - 10:06 AM.


#2 Xiphias

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:06 AM

What version of CAD are you running these days?

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM

Using other vision modes like heat vision on hot maps is cheating. /s

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM

A VA monitor helps a lot with thermal vision as well (and watching sci-fi shows in general)

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:17 AM

Knowing Movin from many drops, he's just as likely to turn around and be stripped down to shrapnel by getting into the wrong place at the wrong time; however, having played in an Urbie for quite a while, has excellent situational awareness, so not surprised in the least to see him getting solid high scores - wtg!

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:33 AM

View PostVxheous, on 17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Using other vision modes like heat vision on hot maps is cheating. /s


“Cheating” myself from the smoke and fog on Caustic and Sulfurous. I feel terrible about it.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:05 AM

View PostMovinTarget, on 17 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

So the other day I was accused of using hax in a FP game... perhaps the first time I think anyone has said that about me.

Anyone who knows me would find this laughable. True, I was having a better than average game (2.8k dmg) but I want to edumacate those that aren't aware of a simple (and well known) game behavior that is available for use... and to be used against you....

On hot maps like Sulphurous and Caustic, heat vision is AMAZING. For sniping anyway. Mechs at a distance... a ridicuous distance will, contrast out to a black object against the background. you can train your eye to be very observant and notice them about to poke out before they can even see you! (their legs/arms/shoulders will poke out b4 their head typically)

Play on those hot maps with heat vision on and you will see why some guys do so well on those maps...
F'ing hacker...

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:00 PM

View PostMovinTarget, on 17 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

So the other day I was accused of using hax in a FP game... perhaps the first time I think anyone has said that about me.

Anyone who knows me would find this laughable. True, I was having a better than average game (2.8k dmg) but I want to edumacate those that aren't aware of a simple (and well known) game behavior that is available for use... and to be used against you....

On hot maps like Sulphurous and Caustic, heat vision is AMAZING. For sniping anyway. Mechs at a distance... a ridicuous distance will, contrast out to a black object against the background. you can train your eye to be very observant and notice them about to poke out before they can even see you! (their legs/arms/shoulders will poke out b4 their head typically)

Play on those hot maps with heat vision on and you will see why some guys do so well on those maps...

That sounds like an exploit...

#9 MovinTarget

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 05:06 PM

View Postmogs01gt, on 17 November 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

That sounds like an exploit...


Which is why I happily explain it. If this is indeed an exploit, it is one of the worst kept secrets ever. If PGI did not want us using Heat vision on hot maps, they need to disable the ability to do so or modify how it works. I doubt they are oblivious to this effect, its only players that think others are hacking that don't know... I'm just trying to level the playing field.

View PostXiphias, on 17 November 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

What version of CAD are you running these days?


Wait, how did you know my day job involved Computer Aided Dispatch?!?!?!

#10 Vxheous

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 05:31 PM

View PostMovinTarget, on 17 November 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:


Which is why I happily explain it. If this is indeed an exploit, it is one of the worst kept secrets ever. If PGI did not want us using Heat vision on hot maps, they need to disable the ability to do so or modify how it works. I doubt they are oblivious to this effect, its only players that think others are hacking that don't know... I'm just trying to level the playing field.



Wait, how did you know my day job involved Computer Aided Dispatch?!?!?!


I've told many players in pug games about using heat vision on hot maps, I almost always get the reply of "OMG my eyes, it's so bright I can't see, you're trying to trick me"

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 05:39 PM

View PostVxheous, on 17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Using other vision modes like heat vision on hot maps is cheating. /s


I've literally been told that making a premade group before dropping in FW is just like exploiting a game bug. Using TS is also haxx because we're not using the in game client.

Some people are so bad they can't even make haxxusations correctly.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 05:50 PM

ANOTHER reason not to.....

#13 MovinTarget

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:23 PM

View PostLovas, on 17 November 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

ANOTHER reason not to.....



...recruit?

#14 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:32 PM

View Postmogs01gt, on 17 November 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

That sounds like an exploit...

No, an exploit is using Artemis fire control with streak missiles to lower the lock on time at zero cost in spaces or cbills. How many years could we do that? Three?

Pressing H... not an exploit.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:52 PM

View PostVxheous, on 17 November 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

I've told many players in pug games about using heat vision on hot maps, I almost always get the reply of "OMG my eyes, it's so bright I can't see, you're trying to trick me"

To me it's very blinding (at least the bright white), but i have zero problem picking out pixels regardless of range/map with the good ol' Eyeball Mk I. Is never using vision modes and doing extremely well cheating? Or how about playing this game so much that you can pre-aim in a general direction in QP and sure enough there's a mech? Brain = Wallhack? I should start selling out. Help me with a catchy name guys.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 05:39 AM

I got accused of hacking the other day. The irony, was the I wasn't the one who killed my accuser. I shot him one time at long-range with twin Gauss Rifles, and then never saw him again until the very end of the match when he was the last Mech alive. Even then, I could only pick up his Arctic Cheetah on sensors because someone close to him had locked him up and was feeding me the data from his Mech. As soon as he died, he started accusing someone of hacking. I asked him who it was he was accusing, and he said, "You!"

Lol. I even snipped the vid from my stream and put it on YouTube.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 05:51 AM

I know there are legit hax that some peeps have used in this game, but it is funny how people are more likely to scream HAX! than consider ping differentials, GPX render fubars, and things that are a whole lot more plausible than hacking a f2p game...

Its like its own mythology, instead of blaming the gods for unexplainable events they put their faith in teh almighty haxxorz...

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 05:51 AM

View PostVxheous, on 17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Using other vision modes like heat vision on hot maps is cheating. /s


My favorites are the target spotted based "you're using wallhacks!!!11!!1" hackusations.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 07:10 AM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 18 November 2017 - 05:51 AM, said:


My favorites are the target spotted based "you're using wallhacks!!!11!!1" hackusations.


It's like they don't realize the building they are hiding behind does not completely hide their chasssis or has cutaways so you can see them moving to poke and be ready...

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:48 AM

[mod]As this thread is directing toward cheating discussion,
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