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[Lily from animove]

you knwo what would be fun?

a merc McMonday where every faction player is having to drop in a preset dropship which is equal to everyone. (lets ay thats the day when our owned emchs have to return to hangar for maintenance) then lets see if IS on this days does as good as the clans. But given what I saw on my IS account during some events. It will be the same whiny trashtalk instead of gameplay focussed nightmare as it is on regular days.

CMDR Sunset Shimmer, on 17 October 2017 - 12:33 AM, said:

Adding clans to this game, was literally, the worst decision they could have made.

I love clan mechs, but my heart lays with the innersphere... if we'd stuck to baseline 3025 era tech, honestly the Faction Play mode would be much more fun. But the current clan v IS balance is just a mess.

before clans people had all sorts of OP and imbalanced talks about other stuff, so thinking this would make stuff better isn't true. instead you would now complain about how premades are OP and how only those 3 OP chassis are used all day making FW boring.

Flarelaine, on 17 October 2017 - 12:58 AM, said:

Dunno, I use the trial Orion in my drop deck and it seems to work fine. Admittedly, I'm a noob but that's why I need a trial mech to fill my drop deck.

yeha nothign wrong with trial mechs, Some people field stuff WAY worse than what trialmechs have,

Edited by Lily from animove, 17 October 2017 - 08:49 AM.

[kuma8877]

I know we've talked about C vs IS,IS vs IS and C vs C, are there lore opportunities in this time period for IS&C vs IS&C?

[McGoat]

Mix-tech would help.

[Mystere]

El Bandito, on 16 October 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Considering this season is based on "Civil War", there should be more infighting among IS and Clans, rather than less. All IS should fight IS in Fed-Com Civil War, and all Clans should fight Clans in the Refusal War, lore time be damned.

(MS) played a week as Clans, after spending a month as IS, and boy switching to Clans was like switching to easy-mode.

Now imagine if the Clans had a single or no respawns or, to be a bit more lore friendly, we had 2 Clan binaries facing an IS battalion.

[El Bandito]

Mystere, on 17 October 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Now imagine if the Clans had a single or no respawns or, to be a bit more lore friendly, we had 2 Clan binaries facing an IS battalion.

Then you are barking at the wrong tree. It is impossible for a company such as PGI to successfully implement asym-warfare with good enough balance in order to not further alienate the leftover population. Heck, even company with rich MP game history such as Blizzard is afraid to make games that have different number of players per side.

Edited by El Bandito, 17 October 2017 - 04:44 PM.

[oldradagast]

Jun Watarase, on 16 October 2017 - 06:30 AM, said:

It would help if IS pugs stopped bringing trial kintaros/stalkers with LRMs to brawl maps.

Or if PGI changed them to something else. Remove all trial mechs with LRMs because newbies dont know anything and will bring them to the wrong maps.

Oh, come on - are we seriously to believe that only IS pilots create bad mech builds? A few games in the Quick Play queue should squash that notion. Hell, I just got out of a match with an LRM Night Gyr on my team... so meta! Check out the MWO world championships - almost entirely Clan mechs. So much balance!

As for FP, it was doomed the moment PGI allowed large, premade groups to regularly farm and roll random PUG's and tiny, casual groups. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that is a horrible idea for a game mode. Naturally, once people figured out that anyone not in a high-end group with a lot of buddies on at the same time should stay away from FP, the game mode quickly died. PGI then did nothing useful on it for years, save for adding a few maps and a few stupid things, like the laughable Long Tom nuke. At this point, FP is done. There is no way to salvage the utter disaster it is; they may as well scrap it or start over if they really care... but they don't... it's on to MW5 now.

Edited by oldradagast, 17 October 2017 - 05:49 PM.

[Lily from animove]

oldradagast, on 17 October 2017 - 05:48 PM, said:

Oh, come on - are we seriously to believe that only IS pilots create bad mech builds? A few games in the Quick Play queue should squash that notion. Hell, I just got out of a match with an LRM Night Gyr on my team... so meta! Check out the MWO world championships - almost entirely Clan mechs. So much balance!

seriously, have you palyed on both sides? have you tried to compare your teammates builds? Is pilots have the habit not to only bring mcuh worse builds, they only bring a much more worse mentality. Some even give up when their first wave fails to result in a positive K/D compared to the opponents and keep sh1ttalking the entire rest of the match. But thats not how FW works, especially not as an attacker. I've been there I've seen it and would never ever go play IS side again without a premade. Sure you find some of these people on clanside, but they aren't that much, and so isntead of "grouping up" with their mad mentality, the one or 2 guys complaing get told to shut up by the others. The bad apples are a minority on clanside but a majority on IS side. and this cases a bad snowballing effect.

[Mystere]

El Bandito, on 17 October 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

Then you are barking at the wrong tree. It is impossible for a company such as PGI to successfully implement asym-warfare with good enough balance in order to not further alienate the leftover population. Heck, even company with rich MP game history such as Blizzard is afraid to make games that have different number of players per side.

Hence my use of the word “imagine”.

As for other companies with “rich game history”, how many of their latest games are mere rehashes of their previous titles? Very few developers are willing to take risks when milking cash cows is so much easier.

[MischiefSC]

El Bandito, on 17 October 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

Then you are barking at the wrong tree. It is impossible for a company such as PGI to successfully implement asym-warfare with good enough balance in order to not further alienate the leftover population. Heck, even company with rich MP game history such as Blizzard is afraid to make games that have different number of players per side.

It's not fear, it's that anyone who's done social analytics knows it's a doomed idea. Look at pug queue - how many players would rather lose a match but get a bunch of kills/damage vs how many want to win the match even if they die with 0 kills and 100 damage?

It is a fundamentally flawed idea. It ignores how people behave and what motivates them in a game. It ensures an environment where vet players in the superior gear farm nubs in the cheaper (and it would have to be cheaper) redshirts gear.

[R Valentine]

Just stop doing FP events. Problem solved. No one will complain about FP because no one will be playing it. The fact that they have to bribe people to get into their broken, lame, painful game mode is evidence enough that people don't want it. They don't even have to shut it down. Just stop doing events and it'll shut itself down.