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[JSmith7784]

I miss the old MWO. I’m thinking back to the 8v8 and then the start of 12 v 12 games. Game was easy to get into and PGI seemed more interested in maps and bug fixing. Had a good active clan and had fun. I started as soon as open Beta started and basically lost interest when the new skill system started.

Wondering if anyone else is still here and misses those days?

[Toothless]

The only thing I miss is the feeling of hope (circa 2013). Ive long since accepted that this is the end game stage, its an arena shooter with bad, strung together game modes.

That whole stages of grief exercise applies directly to MWO. It's time to let go and find acceptance.

[ocular tb]

I do think the game has made a lot of improvements since then but there are indeed some things I miss about the old days.

Jenners were good (and smaller)

The old Forest Colony, Frozen City, Caustic, Terra Therma (I liked them more than the current ones)

Mode select and random map rotation (no silly voting)

No Clans (major powercreep and balance issues since then)

Jump jets were useful

[Black Ivan]

I'm missing the optimism and thought of hope for upcoming things back in the early times and the
old Forest Colony and Frozen City maps.

After fail after fail by PGI cough CW/FW cough there is nothing much left

Edited by Black Ivan, 07 November 2017 - 03:06 AM.

[Wolfways]

I miss that you had to pay for repairs and "Power down and surrender and you will not be destroyed" was a thing.

[Shifty McSwift]

[Savage Wolf]

I do miss 8v8, mode select and no map voting. Not to mention no Polar Highlands or new Frozen City.

But no, I'm just holding on until someone else actually makes a good mech game. And I'd prefer a new franchise, Battletech has not aged well.

Wolfways, on 07 November 2017 - 03:19 AM, said:

I miss that you had to pay for repairs....

I do NOT miss that. Thankfully it was short lived.

[Jun Watarase]

I miss when the game consisted soley of 8 man teams bashing newbies and generating tons of bad publicity for the game...oh wait no i dont.

I miss when people used to sync drop with 2x4 teams to bypass the 4 man team limit in QP after they put in a group queue specifically for 8 man teams...wait i dont miss that either.

I miss when you had to buy 3 different variants to master one mech...wait....

Uh...

Okay i miss the ability to choose the game mode you wanted before the whole map voting fiasco that was used to put everyone in one bucket because we didnt have enough population.

[Shifty McSwift]

Jun Watarase, on 07 November 2017 - 03:28 AM, said:

I miss when the game consisted soley of 8 man teams bashing newbies and generating tons of bad publicity for the game...oh wait no i dont.

I miss when people used to sync drop with 2x4 teams to bypass the 4 man team limit in QP after they put in a group queue specifically for 8 man teams...wait i dont miss that either.

I miss when you had to buy 3 different variants to master one mech...wait....

Uh...

Okay i miss the ability to choose the game mode you wanted before the whole map voting fiasco that was used to put everyone in one bucket because we didnt have enough population.

Aww, you broke my rose colored retrospectacles

[Wolfways]

Savage Wolf, on 07 November 2017 - 03:27 AM, said:

I do NOT miss that. Thankfully it was short lived.

Yeah, it would be terrible to have to spend the ridiculously high amount of C-Bills we get on something...

[Savage Wolf]

Wolfways, on 07 November 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

Yeah, it would be terrible to have to spend the ridiculously high amount of C-Bills we get on something...

You mean, the amount we lost. I remember how everyone packed away their Atlas' and upgraded builds because they couldn't afford to run them. So if you think ghost heat or quirks restricted builds, oh boy, let me tell you about repair and rearm. Of course it was less of a problem if you had premium time so basically, whales could run better mechs. Hello Pay2Win.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Wolfways, on 07 November 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

Yeah, it would be terrible to have to spend the ridiculously high amount of C-Bills we get on something...

You can buy mechs for instance. There is quite a lot of them.

[GweNTLeR]

Meh, I really really miss the old forest colony and therma. The new ones are just too big for brawlers and too short ranged for long. You just run circles for ages in a search for some1 who decided to hide...
And those fights in cauldron...they were really unique... And now we have the same fights as on other maps...
New Caustic and frozen are nice for my taste.

Edited by GweNTLeR, 07 November 2017 - 05:18 AM.

[Burke IV]

Ever sinse the skill tree this game sucked. I miss the old MWO aswell. I dont know why the PGI fanboys keep trying to defend the "new MWO"

[Toothless]

Burke IV, on 07 November 2017 - 05:32 AM, said:

Ever sinse the skill tree this game sucked. I miss the old MWO aswell. I dont know why the PGI fanboys keep trying to defend the "new MWO"

The old skill tree was shockingly bad as was the 3 mech rule. Not only that, the fact that it was left in such a delinquent state for so long added insult to injury.

The fact that 'skill' somehow translates into improving weapon functionality, mech durability, radar, etc. is still so silly to me.

I ride road bikes for 100mi or so a week. That doesnt magically make my bike improve. I drive my car all the time, it doesnt get fine tuned into faster one.

[mogs01gt]

I miss the pop-tart meta. Since I prefer brawling, I liked that could get in close and not have to do with a huge alpha from laser vomit. Plus most of those pop-tart mechs couldnt brawl well.

[Curccu]

If and when this game gets old as WoW maybe we get Classic MWO server option also

[Asym]

If you'all could start the game over, back to the first year, would you go there?

I avoided the game for years because of the ratings and stuff I was hearing from friends.......

Now, as you all reflect, some bitter, some not, are we any better off; and, is a FPS arena (Solaris), as a strategic goal, the end-point of the journey you'all started? Is that what the original players, the "founders" really want or even envisioned at the start?

I wonder if PGI actually is listening to you'all at all? I know they count of your purchases in this very small niche game and market but, I wonder if they are listening to your hopes for the game?

I'm a newer player and just curious about what the "founders" think........

[KodiakGW]

I miss the 37%+ of the active playerbase we had this time last year.

KodiakGW, on 31 October 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

Now that S16 is done, here are some more leaderboard numbers to debate over:

September to October month over month minimum 10 games
2016 - 35,798 to 37,041 - 1,243 player gain
2017 - 28,749 to 28,479 - 270 player loss

October year over year minimum 10 games
37,041 - 28,479 = 8,562 player loss

September to October month over month minimum 80 games
2016 - 16,504 to 20,074 - 3,570 player gain
2017 - 12,553 to 12,555 - 2 player gain

October year over year minimum 80 games
20,074 - 12,555 = 7,519 player loss

But, I guess the ones defending “the new MWO” are happy. Even though I see them now admitting they are playing less, and admitted to being the “cheapskates”.

[Savage Wolf]

Asym, on 07 November 2017 - 06:59 AM, said:

Now, as you all reflect, some bitter, some not, are we any better off; and, is a FPS arena (Solaris), as a strategic goal, the end-point of the journey you'all started? Is that what the original players, the "founders" really want or even envisioned at the start?

Some things are better (Skill tree, Quirks, Mode Select) some are worse (12v12, Map Voting), but overall it's mostly the same.

As for vision, yeah, it was clear to me from the beginning that this was an arena shooter. Was built like one and would be almost impossible to change of that path. So I was kind of surprised when Solaris was announced. Then what is QP supposed to be because it's not actual combat.

And Faction Warfare.... some people really desperately wanted to believe that somehow PGI could pull of something that no one else have save for Eve Online. I never believed it and I was proven right. Didn't really want it either.

What I wished for was PvE which comes as MW5, so I can't complain.

Now if only they realised that FW was much better suited as QP with respawns without all the unit sealclubbing, we could also finally get some game modes that aren't skirmish.