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[FupDup]

Wolfways, on 28 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Why would you want a battlemech instead of an omni? I mean, omni's are better right?

Besides the Omni vs. BM balance debate, it's also just for variety's sake. The only Clan heavy BM in MWO is 75-tons.

Frankly every class except assaults has this issue. For some odd reason Clan assaults have an absurd concentration of battlemechs while the Clan heavies/mediums/lights are predominantly Omnis.

Edited by FupDup, 28 November 2017 - 04:42 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Khobai, on 28 November 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

yeah but a dragon IIC would be 60 tons not 45

and a battlemech not an omnimech

the whole point was to add a 60 ton clan battlemech

I think theyre just gonna have to make one up

But the Thresher is a Battlemech. I mean, it isn't the greatest selection there is, but adding something like that provides both an Omnimech and Battlemech 60-ton option with noncompeting roles.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Don't miss the Hellfire 2, has a stock 300 engine, 360 cap.

[Escef]

Wolfways, on 28 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Why would you want a battlemech instead of an omni? I mean, omni's are better right?

Yes and no.

An omni has engine, engine slotted heat sinks (if any), endo steel, and ferro armor options all locked. In exchange, they get the ability semi-customize hard points through the omnipod system (as well as possibly optional lower arm and hand actuators).

Battlemechs have all of the usual customization options, but lack the omnipod hard point customizations.

Just as an example, I wager a lot of players would love to downgrade the Timber Wolf's engine to a 350, or the The Ice Ferret's 360 down to a 325. Or add endo steel to the Nova, or slot heat sinks into the Stormcrow's engine. How many people wish they could combine the Hunchback IIC B's missiles with the C's arm lasers? Or the Orion IIC B's double lasers arms with literally ANY of the other Orion IIC's left torsos.

[Wolfways]

FupDup, on 28 November 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Besides the Omni vs. BM balance debate, it's also just for variety's sake. The only Clan heavy BM in MWO is 75-tons.

Frankly every class except assaults has this issue. For some odd reason Clan assaults have an absurd concentration of battlemechs while the Clan heavies/mediums/lights are predominantly Omnis.

Escef, on 28 November 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

Yes and no.

An omni has engine, engine slotted heat sinks (if any), endo steel, and ferro armor options all locked. In exchange, they get the ability semi-customize hard points through the omnipod system (as well as possibly optional lower arm and hand actuators).

Battlemechs have all of the usual customization options, but lack the omnipod hard point customizations.

Just as an example, I wager a lot of players would love to downgrade the Timber Wolf's engine to a 350, or the The Ice Ferret's 360 down to a 325. Or add endo steel to the Nova, or slot heat sinks into the Stormcrow's engine. How many people wish they could combine the Hunchback IIC B's missiles with the C's arm lasers? Or the Orion IIC B's double lasers arms with literally ANY of the other Orion IIC's left torsos.

lol yeah I was kinda joking. Imo Battlemechs are so much better than Omnimechs, but then I rarely change omnipods anyway and if I do it's to make a variant from Sarna that isn't in MWO

[Requiemking]

FupDup, on 28 November 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

The Dragon IIC already exists.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Great_Wyrm

It's a medium Omnimech though...

Sorry about this quick "Um Actually" moment, but the Great Wyrm is a Battlemech, not an Omnimech. In fact, it's article clearly states that the arrival of the Omnimech pretty much spelled doom for the Great Wyrm.

[FupDup]

Requiemking, on 28 November 2017 - 08:52 PM, said:

Sorry about this quick "Um Actually" moment, but the Great Wyrm is a Battlemech, not an Omnimech. In fact, it's article clearly states that the arrival of the Omnimech pretty much spelled doom for the Great Wyrm.

Don't be sorry, I shouldn't have dun goofed that hard. Burning the evidence now.

[Requiemking]

FupDup, on 28 November 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

Don't be sorry, I shouldn't have dun goofed that hard. Burning the evidence now.

Eh, I guess I know this stuff because I really quite like the Great Wyrm and would love to see it in MWO.

[Myke Pantera]

Mole, on 28 November 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Gib Champion plz

You need to ask PGI that
If you wonna vote for it though: use the option between Black Hawk KU and Crossbow in the 60t Mech bracket.

[xVLFBERHxT]

Matador, grab life by the horns... or machine guns ?

Haters gonna hate !

[Hanky Spam]

Thresher and Hellfire
Both are looking promising due to their loadout (MASC and/or JJs)

[davoodoo]

Wolfways, on 28 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Why would you want a battlemech instead of an omni? I mean, omni's are better right?

No engine swap, locked in jjs/masc or whatever else you might not want.
Locked structure and armor.

Assuming good hardpoints, battlemechs are always better.

[ANOM O MECH]

FupDup, on 28 November 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Besides the Omni vs. BM balance debate, it's also just for variety's sake. The only Clan heavy BM in MWO is 75-tons.

Frankly every class except assaults has this issue. For some odd reason Clan assaults have an absurd concentration of battlemechs while the Clan heavies/mediums/lights are predominantly Omnis.

I agree that variety sake is an excellent argument for having both omni's and battlemechs at every weight if the game is around that long.

[SFC174]

I'm digging the Hellfire above all others. Funky yet cool design, lots of hardpoints, just seems fun.

[BoldricKent]

Hellfire is really blocky, much like Lupos...hit boxes will make clansman cry..
Thresher on other hand is almost Summoner like, which is much better.