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#1 InnerSphereNews

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:27 PM

Hello MechWarriors!
For those of you who participated in the Battle of Tharkad Faction Play event, here are the stats, finally! (Apologies for the wait!)
Total Wins for IS:
Siege: 1674
Scouting: 7665 
Total Wins for Clans:
Siege: 1499
Scouting: 6646 
Total Scout Matches:
IS: 14311
Clan: 14311
Total Siege Matches:
IS: 3185
Clan: 3184
Top 20 used Mechs for IS Siege mode (and # of times used):
WARHAMMER WHM-6R: 5202
ASSASSIN ASN-21: 4581
WARHAMMER WHM-6D: 4344 
BATTLEMASTER BLR-1G: 3597
MARAUDER MAD-3R: 3243
WARHAMMER BLACK WIDOW: 2858
MAULER MAL-MX90: 2501 
CYCLOPS SLEIPNIR: 1988
JAGERMECH JM6-DD: 1960
CYCLOPS CP-10-Q: 1826
MARAUDER BOUNTY HUNTER II: 1738
GRASSHOPPER GHR-5H: 1731
BATTLEMASTER BLR-2C: 1713
LOCUST PIRATES' BANE: 1711
GRASSHOPPER GHR-5P: 1664
CATAPULT CPLT-K2: 1488
|THUNDERBOLT TDR-5SS: 1420
MARAUDER MAD-5M: 1390
THUNDERBOLT TOP DOG: 1333
CATAPULT JESTER: 1326 
Top 20 Mechs used for IS Scouting (and # of times used):
BUSHWACKER BSW-P1: 8532
GRIFFIN GRF-2N: 5362
BUSHWACKER BSW-X1: 4650
BUSHWACKER BSW-X2: 3425
ASSASSIN ASN-21: 2255
KINTARO KTO-18: 2074
GRIFFIN GRF-5M(L): 1810
BUSHWACKER BSW-P2: 1599
SHADOW HAWK SHD-2D2: 1522
CENTURION CN9-AH(L): 1508
BUSHWACKER HIGH ROLLER: 1331
BUSHWACKER BSW-S2: 1243
GRIFFIN GRF-3M: 1064
CENTURION CN9-A(NCIX): 956
WOLVERINE WVR-7K: 805
HUNCHBACK HBK-4P(S): 765
KINTARO GOLDEN BOY: 742
SHADOW HAWK SHD-2H: 728
HUNCHBACK HBK-4SP: 613
SHADOW HAWK SHD-2K: 592 
Top 20 Mechs used in Clan Siege (and # of times used):
HELLBRINGER HBR-PRIME: 6271 
MIST LYNX MLX-G: 4383 
EBON JAGUAR EBJ-A: 3974 
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-A: 3653 
HELLBRINGER HBR-F(L): 3055 
EBON JAGUAR EBJ-B: 3003 
ARCTIC CHEETAH ACH-PRIME: 2952 
LINEBACKER LBK-PRIME: 2757 
MAD DOG MDD-PRIME: 2645 
MAD DOG MDD-A: 2395 
HELLBRINGER HBR-A: 2375 
STORMCROW SCR-PRIME(S): 2255 
MARAUDER IIC MAD-IIC: 2115 
MARAUDER IIC MAD-IIC-D: 2114 
EBON JAGUAR EBJ-PRIME: 1896 
HELLBRINGER HBR-B: 1870 
TIMBER WOLF TBR-PRIME: 1823 
KIT FOX KFX-G(L): 1820 
MAD CAT MK II DEATHSTRIKE: 1556 
MARAUDER IIC SCORCH: 1547 
Top 20 Mechs used in Clan Scouting (and # of times used):
HUNTSMAN HMN-P: 8663
HUNTSMAN PAKHET: 8237
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-B: 4361
HUNTSMAN HMN-PRIME: 3618
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC: 3321
NOVA NVA-PRIME: 3088
NOVA NVA-S: 2745
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-A: 2468
HUNTSMAN HMN-B: 1818
HUNTSMAN HMN-C: 1703
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-C: 1640
HUNTSMAN HMN-A: 1050
SHADOW CAT SHC-B: 855
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC(C): 844
ICE FERRET IFR-P: 827
NOVA BREAKER: 694
NOVA NVA-PRIME(I): 619
HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC(O): 589
SHADOW CAT SHC-P: 564
NOVA NVA-D(L): 519 
Number of players who participated in at least 1 match of the event who were NOT part of Jade Falcon or House Steiner: 7,476 
Players per Faction:
No Faction: 103
Faction Davion: 730
Faction Kurita: 549
Faction Liao: 1041
Faction Marik: 857
Faction Rasalhague: 644
Faction Steiner: 1380
Faction Clan Smoke Jaguar: 597
Faction Clan Jade Falcon: 993
Faction Clan Wolf: 672
Faction Clan Ghost Bear: 681
Faction Clan Nova Cat: 677
Faction Clan Steel Viper: 722
Faction Clan Diamond Shark: 617 
Total Match Score Earned:
IS: 19655597 
Clan: 20501034 
Number of Matches per Game Mode:
Assault: 258 
Conquest: 336 
Skirmish: 198 
Invasion: 1816 
Domination: 269 
Scouting: 14311 
Incursion: 308 
IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45
Clan Win/Less Ratio: 8145/9339 = 0.87
House Steiner Stats:
Total Players with at least 1 match: 1380
Total Damage: 17207914 
Total Kills: 39148 
Total Deaths: 42539 
Total Assists: 346704 
Total Team Kills: 204
Total Wins: 14266
Total Losses: 13114
Jade Falcon Stats: Total Players with at least 1 match: 993 Total Damage: 13787860 Total Kills: 27982  Total Deaths: 33142  Total Assists: 238778  Total Team Kills: 166 Total Wins: 9683 Total Losses: 11758


#2 Questar

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:48 PM

Thank you, this shows exactly how broken the current system is. It should have been an overwhelming victory for the IS Forces but because of the poor system mechanics in place, the event was given to the clans.

There is no argument left for anyone, the numbers are what the numbers are. The current mechanic needs to be removed and replaced with something that will allow the winning side to actually win.

#3 Thorqemada

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:52 PM

With that kind of math Balancing wont happen wont it? :D
"IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45"

Happy Holidays :)

PS: The "losing" Clans having the higher Matchscore is also standing for itself!

Edited by Thorqemada, 22 December 2017 - 01:54 PM.


#4 SmokeGuar

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:02 PM

Do more dmg, get higher matchscore. Nothing new here.
Gen rushes, more wins but lower dmg and score.
Amount of fat on IS side shows on stats.

#5 suffocater

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:07 PM

So, IS won, but Clan got the victory?

Can anyone spot the error?

#6 MovinTarget

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:07 PM

What? Who posted these stats?

Nobody asked for this!

There was an event?

What's a Tharkad?

;)

#7 C H E E K I E Z

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:14 PM

Wonder how many of those MX90's and WHR-6D's were the trial ones, also funny to see even after 3 rounds of nerfs warhammers still being the best IS mech, well, "what people think is the is best mech"

#8 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:17 PM

Just for my own amusement...

IS 'mechs in Siege;
Warhammer x3
Marauder x3
BattleMaster x2
Cyclops x2
Grasshopper x2
Catapult x2
Thunderbolt x2
Assassin x1
Mauler x1
Jagermech x1
Locust x1

Assault x5
Heavy x13
Medium x1
Light x1

Clan 'mechs in Siege;
Hellbringer x4
Ebon Jaguar x3
Marauder IIC x3
Mad Dog x2
Mist Lynx x1
Hunchback IIC x1
Arctic Cheetah x1
Linebacker x1
Stormcrow x1
Timber Wolf x1
Kit Fox x1
Mad Cat Mk II x1

Assault x4
Heavy x11
Medium x2
Light x3

IS 'mechs in Scouting;
Bushwacker x6
Griffin x3
Shadow Hawk x3
Kintaro x2
Centurion x2
Hunchback x2
Assassin x1
Wolverine x1

Medium x20
Light x0

Clan 'mechs used in Scouting;
Huntsman x6
Hunchback IIC x6 (technically only x4)
Nova x5 (technically only x4)
Shadow Cat x2
Ice Ferret x1

Medium x20
Light x0

Top 6 most popular chassis;
#1 Huntsman HMN-P (8,663)
#2 Bushwacker BSW-P1 (8,532)
#3 Huntsman HMN Pakhet (8,237)
#4 Hellbringer HBR-Prime (6,271)
#5 Griffin GRF-2N (5,362)
#6 Warhammer WHM-6R (5,202)

[Edit] Tidy-up [/Edit]

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 24 December 2017 - 03:58 AM.


#9 Lethe Wyvern

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:18 PM

View PostThorqemada, on 22 December 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

With that kind of math Balancing wont happen wont it? Posted Image
"IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45"

Happy Holidays Posted Image

PS: The "losing" Clans having the higher Matchscore is also standing for itself!


Sooo... IS are won most of matches > IS too powerful and need to be nerfed, right? Oh wait, Clans have 2slot Double Heat Sinks and they are obviously OP! PGI PLZ NERF!

#10 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:20 PM

View PostC H E E K I E Z, on 22 December 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Wonder how many of those MX90's and WHR-6D's were the trial ones

Not that many, None, as the Trial 'mechs are all (C) and these results treat that as a separate 'mech (which is why the HBK-IIC appears 3 times and the NVA-Prime appears twice).

[Edit] Fixed [/Edit]

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 22 December 2017 - 02:26 PM.


#11 steven ridge

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:56 PM

Storming the gates to kill power gens gets old fast,like wise defending them. lots of fun playing the quick play maps with a drop deck.

#12 Jonathan8883

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:23 PM

Yeah, too much siege (invasion) for me to play FP.

#13 Teslacoil

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:41 PM

Time for some IS nerfs I take it? Posted Image

#14 justcallme A S H

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:49 PM

All I can do, after waiting 3 weeks for these stats is sit back and chuckle.

Looks like planet ownership have been "changed" as well? I wonder why that is?


The ToW system has been broken since it was implemented. Maybe, just maybe, it will get the attention it's needed since FP3.0 was dumped upon us.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 22 December 2017 - 03:50 PM.


#15 Magic Pain Glove

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:52 PM

Seems closer than the previous FP events we've had. Still its kinda funny seeing how IS lost when they got more victories overall , heh Posted Image .

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 04:13 PM

IS won, but clans got the Win, and thus clans got the nerfs...

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

View PostMagic Pain Glove, on 22 December 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Seems closer than the previous FP events we've had. Still its kinda funny seeing how IS lost when they got more victories overall , heh Posted Image .

The real issue, after Matt admitted he frak up on the initial event setup on the win condition (which could have changed how units worked those last few hours), allegedly will be the plans to make the ToW for future Capitol events be decided by ONE win from initial start of the event.

Tharkad event did have IS/Steiner winning by a few battles. Instead they lost by 23 battles (see above). If Tharkad had been setup identically to Luthien (1% per drop instead of default 3%), IS would still have lost but then only by 4 5 battles, while needing those battles for a stalemate.

These events should not even come close to guaranteeing an actual winner, a stalemate should be more likely. And with a stalemate PGI should allow a follow up event after the next Capitol event, unless it is the only Capitol left that can be attacked.

Luthien - some stats - stalemate (tie) 1% drops - had pulled it back with 23 wins out of a possible 100 on one end of the ToW at the end of the event. Again, even though Tharkad had 3% drops, IS only pulled back 6 wins (out of 30). If it had been the Luthien setup, it would have been 6 out of 100 and IS would still have lost instead of a stalemate, instead of being slapped in the face.

As a reminder, this percentage is BOTH Siege and Scouting.

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IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45 pointed out in another post 1.14
Clan Win/Less Ratio: 8145/9339 = 0.87


Luthien stats

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Total # of Scout Match wins
Clan: 6050
IS: 7023

Total # of Siege Match attacker/defender wins
Clan: 988
IS: 635

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 23 December 2017 - 12:49 AM.


#18 justcallme A S H

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 04:43 PM

Yep scouting should not be counted.

Or

Siege should count for 4x the value.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 04:45 PM

I love how IS was Dominant on the Capture bar for more then 3/4ths of the event yet they still lost the planet. I really suggest you guys rethink how the capture for capital worlds goes. seeing as Inner sphere had the bar firmly on there side for the bulk of the event they should have held the world IMHO.

I propose everyday at midnight (or just right after peak hours) the faction that has more points on the bar (IE it's on there side to capture) wins the point for the day. if the event is 7 days long then the capture limit is 5 to hold. Also do not allow big units to flip allegiances mid event. Most units (MS. 228 ect) started IS and flipped clan to the end of the event. tipping the balance. Just a suggestion but really the way it's been going so far isn't fair considering what happened doing event.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 05:03 PM

Obviously people switched to IS and won.





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