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[InnerSphereNews]

Hello MechWarriors!

For those of you who participated in the Battle of Tharkad Faction Play event, here are the stats, finally! (Apologies for the wait!)

Total Wins for IS:

Siege: 1674

Scouting: 7665 

Total Wins for Clans:

Siege: 1499

Scouting: 6646 

Total Scout Matches:

IS: 14311

Clan: 14311

Total Siege Matches:

IS: 3185

Clan: 3184

Top 20 used Mechs for IS Siege mode (and # of times used):

WARHAMMER WHM-6R: 5202

ASSASSIN ASN-21: 4581

WARHAMMER WHM-6D: 4344 

BATTLEMASTER BLR-1G: 3597

MARAUDER MAD-3R: 3243

WARHAMMER BLACK WIDOW: 2858

MAULER MAL-MX90: 2501 

CYCLOPS SLEIPNIR: 1988

JAGERMECH JM6-DD: 1960

CYCLOPS CP-10-Q: 1826

MARAUDER BOUNTY HUNTER II: 1738

GRASSHOPPER GHR-5H: 1731

BATTLEMASTER BLR-2C: 1713

LOCUST PIRATES' BANE: 1711

GRASSHOPPER GHR-5P: 1664

CATAPULT CPLT-K2: 1488

|THUNDERBOLT TDR-5SS: 1420

MARAUDER MAD-5M: 1390

THUNDERBOLT TOP DOG: 1333

CATAPULT JESTER: 1326 

Top 20 Mechs used for IS Scouting (and # of times used):

BUSHWACKER BSW-P1: 8532

GRIFFIN GRF-2N: 5362

BUSHWACKER BSW-X1: 4650

BUSHWACKER BSW-X2: 3425

ASSASSIN ASN-21: 2255

KINTARO KTO-18: 2074

GRIFFIN GRF-5M(L): 1810

BUSHWACKER BSW-P2: 1599

SHADOW HAWK SHD-2D2: 1522

CENTURION CN9-AH(L): 1508

BUSHWACKER HIGH ROLLER: 1331

BUSHWACKER BSW-S2: 1243

GRIFFIN GRF-3M: 1064

CENTURION CN9-A(NCIX): 956

WOLVERINE WVR-7K: 805

HUNCHBACK HBK-4P(S): 765

KINTARO GOLDEN BOY: 742

SHADOW HAWK SHD-2H: 728

HUNCHBACK HBK-4SP: 613

SHADOW HAWK SHD-2K: 592 

Top 20 Mechs used in Clan Siege (and # of times used):

HELLBRINGER HBR-PRIME: 6271 

MIST LYNX MLX-G: 4383 

EBON JAGUAR EBJ-A: 3974 

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-A: 3653 

HELLBRINGER HBR-F(L): 3055 

EBON JAGUAR EBJ-B: 3003 

ARCTIC CHEETAH ACH-PRIME: 2952 

LINEBACKER LBK-PRIME: 2757 

MAD DOG MDD-PRIME: 2645 

MAD DOG MDD-A: 2395 

HELLBRINGER HBR-A: 2375 

STORMCROW SCR-PRIME(S): 2255 

MARAUDER IIC MAD-IIC: 2115 

MARAUDER IIC MAD-IIC-D: 2114 

EBON JAGUAR EBJ-PRIME: 1896 

HELLBRINGER HBR-B: 1870 

TIMBER WOLF TBR-PRIME: 1823 

KIT FOX KFX-G(L): 1820 

MAD CAT MK II DEATHSTRIKE: 1556 

MARAUDER IIC SCORCH: 1547 

Top 20 Mechs used in Clan Scouting (and # of times used):

HUNTSMAN HMN-P: 8663

HUNTSMAN PAKHET: 8237

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-B: 4361

HUNTSMAN HMN-PRIME: 3618

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC: 3321

NOVA NVA-PRIME: 3088

NOVA NVA-S: 2745

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-A: 2468

HUNTSMAN HMN-B: 1818

HUNTSMAN HMN-C: 1703

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC-C: 1640

HUNTSMAN HMN-A: 1050

SHADOW CAT SHC-B: 855

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC(C): 844

ICE FERRET IFR-P: 827

NOVA BREAKER: 694

NOVA NVA-PRIME(I): 619

HUNCHBACK IIC HBK-IIC(O): 589

SHADOW CAT SHC-P: 564

NOVA NVA-D(L): 519 

Number of players who participated in at least 1 match of the event who were NOT part of Jade Falcon or House Steiner: 7,476 

Players per Faction:

No Faction: 103

Faction Davion: 730

Faction Kurita: 549

Faction Liao: 1041

Faction Marik: 857

Faction Rasalhague: 644

Faction Steiner: 1380

Faction Clan Smoke Jaguar: 597

Faction Clan Jade Falcon: 993

Faction Clan Wolf: 672

Faction Clan Ghost Bear: 681

Faction Clan Nova Cat: 677

Faction Clan Steel Viper: 722

Faction Clan Diamond Shark: 617 

Total Match Score Earned:

IS: 19655597 

Clan: 20501034 

Number of Matches per Game Mode:

Assault: 258 

Conquest: 336 

Skirmish: 198 

Invasion: 1816 

Domination: 269 

Scouting: 14311 

Incursion: 308 

IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45

Clan Win/Less Ratio: 8145/9339 = 0.87

House Steiner Stats:

Total Players with at least 1 match: 1380

Total Damage: 17207914 

Total Kills: 39148 

Total Deaths: 42539 

Total Assists: 346704 

Total Team Kills: 204

Total Wins: 14266

Total Losses: 13114

Jade Falcon Stats: Total Players with at least 1 match: 993 Total Damage: 13787860 Total Kills: 27982  Total Deaths: 33142  Total Assists: 238778  Total Team Kills: 166 Total Wins: 9683 Total Losses: 11758

[Questar]

Thank you, this shows exactly how broken the current system is. It should have been an overwhelming victory for the IS Forces but because of the poor system mechanics in place, the event was given to the clans.

There is no argument left for anyone, the numbers are what the numbers are. The current mechanic needs to be removed and replaced with something that will allow the winning side to actually win.

[Thorqemada]

With that kind of math Balancing wont happen wont it?
"IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45"

Happy Holidays

PS: The "losing" Clans having the higher Matchscore is also standing for itself!

Edited by Thorqemada, 22 December 2017 - 01:54 PM.

[SmokeGuar]

Do more dmg, get higher matchscore. Nothing new here.
Gen rushes, more wins but lower dmg and score.
Amount of fat on IS side shows on stats.

[suffocater]

So, IS won, but Clan got the victory?

Can anyone spot the error?

[MovinTarget]

What? Who posted these stats?

Nobody asked for this!

There was an event?

What's a Tharkad?

[C H E E K I E Z]

Wonder how many of those MX90's and WHR-6D's were the trial ones, also funny to see even after 3 rounds of nerfs warhammers still being the best IS mech, well, "what people think is the is best mech"

[Jay Leon Hart]

Just for my own amusement...

IS 'mechs in Siege;
Warhammer x3
Marauder x3
BattleMaster x2
Cyclops x2
Grasshopper x2
Catapult x2
Thunderbolt x2
Assassin x1
Mauler x1
Jagermech x1
Locust x1

Assault x5
Heavy x13
Medium x1
Light x1

Clan 'mechs in Siege;
Hellbringer x4
Ebon Jaguar x3
Marauder IIC x3
Mad Dog x2
Mist Lynx x1
Hunchback IIC x1
Arctic Cheetah x1
Linebacker x1
Stormcrow x1
Timber Wolf x1
Kit Fox x1
Mad Cat Mk II x1

Assault x4
Heavy x11
Medium x2
Light x3

IS 'mechs in Scouting;
Bushwacker x6
Griffin x3
Shadow Hawk x3
Kintaro x2
Centurion x2
Hunchback x2
Assassin x1
Wolverine x1

Medium x20
Light x0

Clan 'mechs used in Scouting;
Huntsman x6
Hunchback IIC x6 (technically only x4)
Nova x5 (technically only x4)
Shadow Cat x2
Ice Ferret x1

Medium x20
Light x0

Top 6 most popular chassis;
#1 Huntsman HMN-P (8,663)
#2 Bushwacker BSW-P1 (8,532)
#3 Huntsman HMN Pakhet (8,237)
#4 Hellbringer HBR-Prime (6,271)
#5 Griffin GRF-2N (5,362)
#6 Warhammer WHM-6R (5,202)

[Edit] Tidy-up [/Edit]

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 24 December 2017 - 03:58 AM.

[Lethe Wyvern]

Thorqemada, on 22 December 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

With that kind of math Balancing wont happen wont it?
"IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45"

Happy Holidays

PS: The "losing" Clans having the higher Matchscore is also standing for itself!

Sooo... IS are won most of matches > IS too powerful and need to be nerfed, right? Oh wait, Clans have 2slot Double Heat Sinks and they are obviously OP! PGI PLZ NERF!

[Jay Leon Hart]

C H E E K I E Z, on 22 December 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Wonder how many of those MX90's and WHR-6D's were the trial ones

Not that many, None, as the Trial 'mechs are all (C) and these results treat that as a separate 'mech (which is why the HBK-IIC appears 3 times and the NVA-Prime appears twice).

[Edit] Fixed [/Edit]

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 22 December 2017 - 02:26 PM.

[steven ridge]

Storming the gates to kill power gens gets old fast,like wise defending them. lots of fun playing the quick play maps with a drop deck.

[Jonathan8883]

Yeah, too much siege (invasion) for me to play FP.

[Teslacoil]

Time for some IS nerfs I take it?

[justcallme A S H]

All I can do, after waiting 3 weeks for these stats is sit back and chuckle.

Looks like planet ownership have been "changed" as well? I wonder why that is?


The ToW system has been broken since it was implemented. Maybe, just maybe, it will get the attention it's needed since FP3.0 was dumped upon us.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 22 December 2017 - 03:50 PM.

[Magic Pain Glove]

Seems closer than the previous FP events we've had. Still its kinda funny seeing how IS lost when they got more victories overall , heh .

[shameless]

IS won, but clans got the Win, and thus clans got the nerfs...

[Tarl Cabot]

Magic Pain Glove, on 22 December 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Seems closer than the previous FP events we've had. Still its kinda funny seeing how IS lost when they got more victories overall , heh .

The real issue, after Matt admitted he frak up on the initial event setup on the win condition (which could have changed how units worked those last few hours), allegedly will be the plans to make the ToW for future Capitol events be decided by ONE win from initial start of the event.

Tharkad event did have IS/Steiner winning by a few battles. Instead they lost by 23 battles (see above). If Tharkad had been setup identically to Luthien (1% per drop instead of default 3%), IS would still have lost but then only by 4 5 battles, while needing those battles for a stalemate.

These events should not even come close to guaranteeing an actual winner, a stalemate should be more likely. And with a stalemate PGI should allow a follow up event after the next Capitol event, unless it is the only Capitol left that can be attacked.

Luthien - some stats - stalemate (tie) 1% drops - had pulled it back with 23 wins out of a possible 100 on one end of the ToW at the end of the event. Again, even though Tharkad had 3% drops, IS only pulled back 6 wins (out of 30). If it had been the Luthien setup, it would have been 6 out of 100 and IS would still have lost instead of a stalemate, instead of being slapped in the face.

As a reminder, this percentage is BOTH Siege and Scouting.

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IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45 pointed out in another post 1.14
Clan Win/Less Ratio: 8145/9339 = 0.87

Luthien stats

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Total # of Scout Match wins
Clan: 6050
IS: 7023

Total # of Siege Match attacker/defender wins
Clan: 988
IS: 635

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 23 December 2017 - 12:49 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Yep scouting should not be counted.

Or

Siege should count for 4x the value.

[Knightshadowsong]

I love how IS was Dominant on the Capture bar for more then 3/4ths of the event yet they still lost the planet. I really suggest you guys rethink how the capture for capital worlds goes. seeing as Inner sphere had the bar firmly on there side for the bulk of the event they should have held the world IMHO.

I propose everyday at midnight (or just right after peak hours) the faction that has more points on the bar (IE it's on there side to capture) wins the point for the day. if the event is 7 days long then the capture limit is 5 to hold. Also do not allow big units to flip allegiances mid event. Most units (MS. 228 ect) started IS and flipped clan to the end of the event. tipping the balance. Just a suggestion but really the way it's been going so far isn't fair considering what happened doing event.

[lazorbeamz]

Obviously people switched to IS and won.