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[Hit the Deck]

One I just put together in smurphy

How does it perform in QP compared to other dakka builds? Right now I can't waste valuable space bucks by putting Endo on and off just to try out a build so I prefer to hear your opinions first.

[Escef]

I've seen it tried, but wasn't paying enough attention to check the results. Given that most ANHs lose a side torso well before being killed, you're probably better off swapping to quad LB10X, junking the 11th sink, and swapping the XL for an LFE. (LB10X is a lot like a small or medium laser in a way. Individually, not worth considering. Boated, are dangerous.)

EDIT: You could also do the quad LB10X build with endo steel and a standard 300, but you'd need swap to standard plate armor and trim around 15-18 points.

Edited by Escef, 26 December 2017 - 07:35 PM.

[Bombast]

I'd say don't bother. Quad AC/10 works, but its no game breaker. If nothing else, I'd take quad LB-10X over it - The savings in tonnage/crit investment more than make up for the splat.

Not that quad LB-10X is meta, of course.

[DAYLEET]

Hit the Deck, on 26 December 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

One I just put together in smurphy

How does it perform in QP compared to other dakka builds? Right now I can't waste valuable space bucks by putting Endo on and off just to try out a build so I prefer to hear your opinions first.

Take that xl out lol. One of my ANH is quad ac10 and its pretty cool. I recommend opening with an alpha then go 2/2 if you're going to have to fight more than one mech. If its an assault pushing you, go ahead and pull 2 alpha first but drink that coolaid or you're out of the fight.

Bombast, on 26 December 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

I'd say don't bother. Quad AC/10 works, but its no game breaker. If nothing else, I'd take quad LB-10X over it - The savings in tonnage/crit investment more than make up for the splat.

Not that quad LB-10X is meta, of course.

LB10x certainly are easier to use and i prefere to be able to swat a light with those than pin point at 400m with ac10. But really, buy as many mech that you need to have one of every loadout.

Edited by DAYLEET, 26 December 2017 - 07:45 PM.

[Hit the Deck]

But quad LB 10-X is old news with 'Mechs like the Mauler and DWF being able to do it.

I never tried one myself though.

[Escef]

Bombast, on 26 December 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Not that quad LB-10X is meta, of course.

Well, if he's in QP solo queue meta is a LOT less important... Of course, in the solo queue I can't recommend the ANH, teams will leave you behind on a lot of maps.

[Escef]

Hit the Deck, on 26 December 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

But quad LB 10-X is old news with 'Mechs like the Mauler and DWF being able to do it.

I never tried one myself though.

TBH, you're probably better off trying it with a Mauler or Cyclops Sleipnir. You can sneak in a 275 standard engine so you can be a little bit faster than an ANH... And I've been told that the Cyclops has better agility than the Mauler. (In either case, you're looking at severely reduced leg and head armor, and arm armor that is only marginally better than thoughts and prayers.)

[CFC Conky]

I run a 3xAC10 Nightstar-9P and get decent results; alpha if you're not getting return fire, otherwise chain fire them for a near-continuous stream of shells. I used to run it with 4xLB10-X but I'm finding the AC10 rig to be more effective.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[Troa Barton]

Not on the 2A 5 UAC5 is the way to go on that chassis
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cdb645f9926556e
And for all that is holy get that XL out of the annihilator!!! Use a standard 280 or 300
If you want to use AC10's they work well on the 1A since it has a -10% cooldown quirk for AC10's
Just don't fire all 4 at the same time.
Have at least one coolshot handy Annihilators can't get to cover to cool off.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5e363076f343bbd

Also note that the 1X has a -10% cooldown quirk for LBX 10s

Edited by Troa Barton, 27 December 2017 - 12:43 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Most fun I have with the Anni is 2x RAC5, 4xAC2.

Quirked it's almost 36 DPS and just comedy gold to firehose stuff down. The Anni is always iffy in QP, depends what your team does and it's hard to keep up. However when you can it's entertaining. Not top tier, but entertaining.

[Hit the Deck]

Troa Barton, on 26 December 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

Not on the 2A 5 UAC5 is the way to go on that chassis
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cdb645f9926556e
...

BTW swapping that STD280 with an equivalent LFE will give you more tonnage and slot to work with ANH-2A

[ccrider]

Annihilator 1a gets a 20 percent cool down to ac10s before skill tree. After skills for cool down, heat gen, velocity and magazine, you are basically able to continually chainfire and anything under 500 meters is almost instantly hit. Its a good build on that mech

[El Bandito]

Hit the Deck, on 26 December 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

One I just put together in smurphy

How does it perform in QP compared to other dakka builds? Right now I can't waste valuable space bucks by putting Endo on and off just to try out a build so I prefer to hear your opinions first.

Only useful for 1v1 duels. Not enough ammo otherwise. Don't take XL, FFS.

ccrider, on 26 December 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Annihilator 1a gets a 20 percent cool down to ac10s before skill tree.

Only 10%.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 December 2017 - 08:15 PM.

[Helsbane]

I've got one of mine built with quad AC10s, and it's fun. Not always terribly effective, but fun nonetheless. I spec the skill forest for seismic, and lurk around corners waiting for some poor fool to find me the hard way. In FP matches, it is great on defense, but not much else. Knowing where to set up ambushes with it is key, because you aren't going to win any footraces with it.

As for XL engines in assaults, I have mixed feelings. There are some that you should NEVER do, and the Annihilator is one of those. It's as bad as an XL lurm Stalker (those things are delicious). Some of the assaults that can run really big engines and use mobility and cover effectively, you may get away with it, but when 300 is your engine cap, not a prayer...

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Build with endosteel without using an XL: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bea6eeaff660f87

Can remove a ton of ammo for more arm armor or leg armor, the ammo is a bit excessive, especially with ammo nodes in the skill tree, could drop both the CT boxes.

Edited by Dakota1000, 27 December 2017 - 01:01 AM.

[LordNothing]

if you fire all the guns you have about 2 shots before you are in the red. however what i did was to unlock just the right number of cd nodes so that you can fire continuously in chain fire without any gaps. have a chain group and an alpha group. alpha for low oppritunity pop shots and cycle for dps or suppression. works great.

other side is you are a sitting duck if theres a small light because they can sit right under your pot belly and punch you repeatedly in the groin, which is not fun. height has its disadvantages. if you see a light approaching take good aim for the nearest leg and fire. one alpha is enough then you can take your time with them.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 December 2017 - 01:16 AM.

[ShoX]

I had a STD270 lying around, put that in, haven't looked back. Ammo is lower than you'd normally be comfortable with, but fights you get into are very short. Very, very short. Bagged myself 3 KMDDs and 5 kills on my first ride without any masteries.

I fire arms and torso on two different groups. You need the arm mobility and the cycling keeps the heat down.

Edited by ShoX, 27 December 2017 - 02:01 AM.

[El Bandito]

Dakota1000, on 27 December 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Build with endosteel without using an XL: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bea6eeaff660f87

Can remove a ton of ammo for more arm armor or leg armor, the ammo is a bit excessive, especially with ammo nodes in the skill tree, could drop both the CT boxes.

I'd replace one of the AC10s with LBX10. That way you can completely avoid the significant GH penalty.

[theta123]

Both are great builds, but quad LB10x is devestating.
Always take the LFE 300. XL annihalator is a bad choise.

[lazorbeamz]

Ghost heat penaltay says DONT DO THAT