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#1 CFC Conky

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:00 PM

Hello all,

All the Warhammers, except for the Champion chassis have PPC's mounted in the arms. There are perfectly serviceable energy hardpoints in the torsos.

Is there any reason why one shouldn't mount the PPC's in the torsos to take advantage of the higher mounts?

Thanks!
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#2 Steel Raven

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:13 PM

Actually, that's the best place for them. Traditionally, the Wammy always had the PPCs in the arm but the MWO weapon convergence for arm mounted weapons is bad enough, that's the first change most make in mechlab.

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 09:05 PM

View PostSteel Raven, on 17 January 2018 - 07:13 PM, said:

Actually, that's the best place for them. Traditionally, the Wammy always had the PPCs in the arm but the MWO weapon convergence for arm mounted weapons is bad enough, that's the first change most make in mechlab.


I agree in MWO it seems the torsos higher mounts are preferable to the Warhammer's lower slung arms.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:25 AM

Ok then, it's as I thought, torso PPCs it is. Thanks for the replies Posted Image .

Good hunting,
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Posted 25 January 2018 - 05:42 AM

Always put PPCs in the torsos - for some reason, the angle that the arms naturally hang at lead you to hitting a LOT of scenery with the PPCs but strangely the same issue doesn't seem as bad with lasers - go figure.

Also, if you pair the PPCs with a ballistic with a similar projectile speed (like an AC5) you can get some good weapon synergies going.

LBX 10s and SNPPCs is a great close range option to look at too.

Enjoy

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:40 AM

Depends on preference, but to me, it's not a Warhammer if it doesn't have PPC arms.

That being said, what the arms give you is the ability to hit targets out side of the torso arc, with a little twisting you can nearly put a PPC shot behind you, if your FoV is far enough back.

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 05:37 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 25 January 2018 - 07:40 AM, said:

Depends on preference, but to me, it's not a Warhammer if it doesn't have PPC arms.

That being said, what the arms give you is the ability to hit targets out side of the torso arc, with a little twisting you can nearly put a PPC shot behind you, if your FoV is far enough back.


From a lore standpoint I salute you. From a pragmatic standpoint I vigorously beg to differ. ERPPCs deserve high mounts.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:18 PM

View PostSpare Parts Bin, on 29 January 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:


From a lore standpoint I salute you. From a pragmatic standpoint I vigorously beg to differ. ERPPCs deserve high mounts.


/shrug

I run super stock builds in all my mechs, when I play my Warhammer she clocks 3-4 KMDD's with 4 to 5 kills most matches... and yes that is with arm PPC's.

Granted some matches go better than others, but I play what I like and not bow to the meta.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 04:55 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 04 February 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:


/shrug

I run super stock builds in all my mechs, when I play my Warhammer she clocks 3-4 KMDD's with 4 to 5 kills most matches... and yes that is with arm PPC's.

Granted some matches go better than others, but I play what I like and not bow to the meta.


Sounds like you are good enough that you do not need the help high mounted PPCs would provide. For newer players or Tier 5 fiends like me we will take any advantages we can get.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:23 AM

Unrelated Warhammer question:

Is this mech specifically targeted in QP? I could be surrounded by my entire team in a murder ball, my teammates could be firing at the enemy, and I'm typically eating more missiles and direct fire than my neighboring assaults. Has anyone else experienced this?

As an aside, I somehow backed into Tier 3 after only three seemingly exceptional matches using the trial King Crab. Maybe I'm just out of my element?

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:59 PM

Warhammers are often targeted because they are usually pretty threatening. Its probably the best IS heavy right now. Its easier to kill than an assault as well, so removing it will reduce the enemy firepower by quite a lot.

If you find yourself eating hits, just fall back and reposition yourself.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:33 PM

View PostSpare Parts Bin, on 29 January 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

ERPPCs deserve high mounts.

But ERPPCs are sooo hot! why not use the much cooler better standards?

~Leone.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:04 PM

View PostLeone, on 01 March 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

But ERPPCs are sooo hot! why not use the much cooler better standards?

~Leone.


ERPPC has no minimum range and a much longer range. HPPC+LPPC is fun where you can use two energy slots together like on a Battlemaster. Hot weapons reward the cool headed.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 05:39 AM

ERPPCs also have a higher velocity, if my memory serves.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:35 AM

View PostHorseman, on 02 March 2018 - 05:39 AM, said:

ERPPCs also have a higher velocity, if my memory serves.


1900 vs 1200 if memory serves me right.





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