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[The6thMessenger]

I know that it's been a while, but i feel that Civil War saved the Grid Iron. Previously, Gauss Grid-Iron just wasn't measuring up, but then now we get the HGR with the same cooldown, same charge-up time, and the kicker is that you can dispense 25 PPFLD about every 3.5s with cooldown investment.

HBK-GI HGR - HGR [4t] + ERML

Another build i am intrigued is an MRM40 build -- i thought of making use of the hunch as the shield, and it made for a very resilient Hunchback as a result. I believe that the ERML helped the IS as a whole, so i don't feel like applauding it here.

HBK-GI MRM-Shield - MRM40 + 3x ERML + 2x LMG [1t]

And then the Rocket-Launchers, sure it's one-use, but at least that RL20 can have some nasty peekaboo one-time damage. I mean what i could make Grid-Iron work is practically what also works with other variants, that makes it hardpoint selections or quirks not as special. Now with the HGR and MRM40, i feel that it breathed a new life with GI.

Does anyone else also share the sentiment?

[Mechrophilia]

The new tech definitely put it in a better spot

[Davegt27]

mine is 1 RAC2 and 1 RAC5 also 1 ERML and 1ERSL

it really saved the Gridiron to me

[N0ni]

Nope, still bad. Isolate the ST and it's game over. Especially with HGR, being easy to crit and explode (hunch doesn't help either, easily hit from all angles).

Haven't tried an MRM40, at least you won't be rendered useless as quick. Grid Iron forever just a gimmick fun mech.

[Curccu]

Offensive quirks of GI are just bad and should be buffed, I think 4G or even 4H are better for that HG build.

[El Bandito]

Curccu, on 19 January 2018 - 12:38 AM, said:

Offensive quirks of GI are just bad and should be buffed, I think 4G or even 4H are better for that HG build.

Correct. 4G is still the best for heavy ballistics.

[Hit the Deck]

Does its gauss rifle cooldown quirk affect HGR?

[Curccu]

Hit the Deck, on 19 January 2018 - 01:03 AM, said:

Does its gauss rifle cooldown quirk affect HGR?

Usually quirks like that work for more specific weapons, but not sure, should get to mechlab and check cooldown.
but even if it works vs 4G
20% cooldown vs 10% cooldown
0% range vs 15% (very useful for HG)
0% velocity vs 25% (HG velocity is "only" 1500m/s and that quirk gets it very close to normal gauss velocity)
0% crit hit chance vs 25% (might help a bit for that HG not to explode, Annihilator has 15% quirk and sometimes I'm wondering why my HGs are still there after half of internals are gone.)
22 internal structure outside of the hunch vs 0

personally I would take that range, velocity and crit received quirks vs 10% cooldown + few structures, I would love GI to be good'ish for some kind of niche role again but meh nerfed to death and collecting dust, like too many other mechs in my collection.

[Bombast]

Hit the Deck, on 19 January 2018 - 01:03 AM, said:

Does its gauss rifle cooldown quirk affect HGR?

Yes.

Civil War tech did help the Grid Iron, but not really enough. MRMs fill in that single missile point far better than SRMs ever did, but an MRM40 is still not enough for a mech its weight, and while the HGR Grid Iron can be fun, it's slow and heavily dependent on the team to set kills up for you. And the hunch is still a giant shot magnet.

It's better than it was, but still not good.

Edited by Bombast, 19 January 2018 - 02:07 AM.

[The6thMessenger]

Bombast, on 19 January 2018 - 02:06 AM, said:

And the hunch is still a giant shot magnet.

Kinda why i have this idea of using it as a shield.

[Sjorpha]

The6thMessenger, on 18 January 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

I know that it's been a while, but i feel that Civil War saved the Grid Iron. Previously, Gauss Grid-Iron just wasn't measuring up, but then now we get the HGR with the same cooldown, same charge-up time, and the kicker is that you can dispense 25 PPFLD about every 3.5s with cooldown investment.

HBK-GI HGR - HGR [4t] + ERML

Your build has room for upgrading to normal Ferro like this, so you can add some armour back.

Personally I think the best build is still regular gauss, with the CW upgrades being LFE and ER meds. Like this.

I've tried to make super rapid fire 2x light gauss on it but it's just not enough tonnage sadly, because that could have been something.

Edited by Sjorpha, 19 January 2018 - 05:40 AM.

[N a p e s]

Sjorpha, on 19 January 2018 - 05:32 AM, said:

Personally I think the best build is still regular gauss, with the CW upgrades being LFE and ER meds. Like this.

QFT

I tried some of the newtech on it and just reverted back to this in the end.

[UnofficialOperator]

What... no one watched Monpax??? Was it Monpax with his GI?

[The6thMessenger]

UnofficialOperator, on 19 January 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

What... no one watched Monpax??? Was it Monpax with his GI?

I only see him with AC2 + LB10X, i haven't seen him in other builds yet.

[UnofficialOperator]

The6thMessenger, on 19 January 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

I only see him with AC2 + LB10X, i haven't seen him in other builds yet.

Exactly my point