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#1 IVeoRR

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:22 PM

So after about 2 years of play, i start to recognize players, their preferred loadouts, forum warriors, old unit members, etc., while in the queue waiting for all the players to connect. I instantly notice a player that I see in the pug queue quite a bit. Lately he has been running a Mauler with dual heavy guass.

Anyhow, I'm in my Marauder 5D. River city, skirmish, we are all grouping up on the oil tank side of the citadel. I believe the score was tied at 3/3. I had a few scratches, but can only speculate on my armor percentage. I'm fairly certain my CT armor was yellow or orange on the display. We push around and have them backing up to where Theta is on conquest. Some are backing up into the buildings and creating 2 fronts.

I come face to face with the Mauler and as I launch my MRM's and follow with my mediums my brain says that's Paladin and I should have twisted to absorb his shot to hopefully only lose an arm with 2 medium lasers then let him have it, but hindsight is you know...

Here's the problem...HE F'N KILLED ME! HOW? MY MARAUDER HAS 70 STRUCTURE! I STILL HAD ARMOR!

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:23 PM

Did you get headshot? That would oneshot you.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:25 PM

You were shot in the cockpit?

Edited by Mystere, 20 January 2018 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:25 PM

What component blew up?

#5 IVeoRR

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:32 PM

Crap! Now I feel like a dumba! I was so shocked at my death, I forgot to look at the display cause I just assumed it was a bug and started typing a retort to said killer. I bet you guys are right...I probably took one to the melon.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:33 PM

View PostBombast, on 20 January 2018 - 09:25 PM, said:

What component blew up?


Probably didn't look/check.

This has headshot written all over it.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:41 PM

Both IS and Clan marauders are prone to be being headshot. One of the reasons I think the chassis is overrated.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:49 PM

Show us your paperdoll.

HGauss is very easy to headshot.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:03 PM

View PostStar Colonel Silver Surat, on 20 January 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

Both IS and Clan marauders are prone to be being headshot. One of the reasons I think the chassis is overrated.


This is why I laughed at Baradul's Marauder and Marauder IIC builds when he cuts the head armor to the point where a dual light gauss mech could take him out in one hit.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:08 PM

The sad thing is clan assaults die so fast anyway that there isnt much of a difference between getting headshotted or CT cored anyway. It only takes like 5 seconds to core out a clan assault that cant torso twist at all.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:11 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 20 January 2018 - 09:49 PM, said:

Show us your paperdoll.

HGauss is very easy to headshot.

View PostShadowomega1, on 20 January 2018 - 10:03 PM, said:


This is why I laughed at Baradul's Marauder and Marauder IIC builds when he cuts the head armor to the point where a dual light gauss mech could take him out in one hit.

Really? I mean, I've gotten a headshot against a IIC, but really it comes off as a freak accident. I feel like only a very small percentages of Marauder deaths are headshot ones. Even if it's higher for them than average, it's still quite minute. I can't imagine how it could be considered seriously. Any other flaw would be a much greater mark against the platform to dwarf it in comparison.

I've been headshot killed in a WHM once, and I did take a dual HGR to the head in a TBR (at distance and with armor skills, though). Headshots generally seem very uncommon.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:16 PM

View PostSnowbluff, on 20 January 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

Really? I mean, I've gotten a headshot against a IIC, but really it comes off as a freak accident. I feel like only a very small percentages of Marauder deaths are headshot ones. Even if it's higher for them than average, it's still quite minute. I can't imagine how it could be considered seriously. Any other flaw would be a much greater mark against the platform to dwarf it in comparison.

I've been headshot killed in a WHM once, and I did take a dual HGR to the head in a TBR (at distance and with armor skills, though). Headshots generally seem very uncommon.


MAD-IIC is the mech that I probably see get headshot'd the most these days. Not sure what it is about it, just at the right height, and suitably large I guess. I'd call it slightly more than a fluke.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:21 PM

View PostTarogato, on 20 January 2018 - 10:16 PM, said:

MAD-IIC is the mech that I probably see get headshot'd the most these days. Not sure what it is about it, just at the right height, and suitably large I guess. I'd call it slightly more than a fluke.

This was when it first came out. Which is to say, it was EXACTLY on the level with my cockpit level, so it's naturally where my aim settled. :P

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:24 PM

HEAD SHOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

#15 Humpday

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:33 PM

PS most of them are lucky shot, all 11 of mine in 3500+ games are all lucky...
Maybe one was a panic...aim at the general atlas left eye did it...or the HS event.....

The rest are all lucky....mostly becuase by default i aim at the head since it normally had the least ability to spread damage.

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:35 AM

Dual Heavy Gauss will consistently deliver freak headshots whether you're trying to get them or not.

Usually happens on mechs with a cockpit within the center mass. So you strike it by accident while shooting for CT. Dual torso ballistics tend to converge well, so you tend to land with them both. Anywhere within 350m and it's instant death.

Happens.

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 01:36 AM

View PostSnowbluff, on 20 January 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

Really? I mean, I've gotten a headshot against a IIC, but really it comes off as a freak accident. I feel like only a very small percentages of Marauder deaths are headshot ones. Even if it's higher for them than average, it's still quite minute. I can't imagine how it could be considered seriously. Any other flaw would be a much greater mark against the platform to dwarf it in comparison.


Dual HGauss is 50 PPFLD. I usually have one head shot per FP match, when I use them. Hellbringers, EBJs, MAD-IICs, MCIIs...

Edited by El Bandito, 21 January 2018 - 02:04 AM.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 01:48 AM

View PostIVeoRR, on 20 January 2018 - 09:22 PM, said:

So after about 2 years of play, i start to recognize players, their preferred loadouts, forum warriors, old unit members, etc., while in the queue waiting for all the players to connect. I instantly notice a player that I see in the pug queue quite a bit. Lately he has been running a Mauler with dual heavy guass.

Anyhow, I'm in my Marauder 5D. River city, skirmish, we are all grouping up on the oil tank side of the citadel. I believe the score was tied at 3/3. I had a few scratches, but can only speculate on my armor percentage. I'm fairly certain my CT armor was yellow or orange on the display. We push around and have them backing up to where Theta is on conquest. Some are backing up into the buildings and creating 2 fronts.

I come face to face with the Mauler and as I launch my MRM's and follow with my mediums my brain says that's Paladin and I should have twisted to absorb his shot to hopefully only lose an arm with 2 medium lasers then let him have it, but hindsight is you know...

Here's the problem...HE F'N KILLED ME! HOW? MY MARAUDER HAS 70 STRUCTURE! I STILL HAD ARMOR!


welcome to MWO you play enough you see all kinds of crazy crap

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:23 AM

View PostShadowomega1, on 20 January 2018 - 10:03 PM, said:


This is why I laughed at Baradul's Marauder and Marauder IIC builds when he cuts the head armor to the point where a dual light gauss mech could take him out in one hit.


Yeah, I learned this the hard way when I was using one of the MAD-IIC builds he did a video on. Headshot in the first minute of a Caustic Valley game. All I could do was laugh.

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 10:16 AM

lucky double crit
ammo explosion
headshot
someone else shooting you too

There are lots of possibilities.
Definitely review your death log whenever possible. It tells you a lot





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