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[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Been testing out the Stormcrow in scouting. It gets promptly ownzoned by Bushwackers, just no contest really in a brawl. Going to try them out as skirmishers instead.

[Hanky Spam]

KevinZhang, on 22 January 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

With clan ton limit being increased back to 55 and the Storm Crow finally being able to be used in scouting again, will the Clans finally have a chance in scouting again? Are the crows comparable to the Bushwhackers or do they still fall short due to armor and the new IS tech?

Also what are you going to run on your crows?

You could beat Bushies already before the tonnage increase.
Take an IFR-P with medium lasers, kite the Bushwacker, shoot legs, once they lost one leg you farm the **** out of them.

Yes it takes some time and practice and you also can't simply go rambo on them, but if you do it right it'll works always, ALWAYS!

Edited by Hanky Spam, 23 January 2018 - 06:01 AM.

[Dago Red]

So crow meat is back on the menu? KEEN!

[Asym]

Speed is the difference. 87 vrs 104. In the past, even in a skirmish, the BSW could close with the Hunch or Huntsman. Now, they can't and who dictates the battlespace has changed.

Yes, Is will run to Assassins. And, if they do, the Assassins face streaks on a tankier mech. 5 tons is 5 tons..... I don't play much anymore but the moment an event requires scouting for MC, I'm greatly looking forward to it now. Change is good and with the Blackie coming on-line as well, the Scouting dynamic will change to adapt... Change is always a necessary evil to combat complacency..........and, MWO is stuck in status quo.

[C E Dwyer]

Sales of the Black Laner must be poor is all I can think, because the Stormcrow is just plain bad in scouting, when facing off against I.S pilots that can aim.

[Admiral-Dan]

Asym, on 23 January 2018 - 06:33 AM, said:

Speed is the difference. 87 vrs 104. In the past, even in a skirmish, the BSW could close with the Hunch or Huntsman. Now, they can't and who dictates the battlespace has changed.

A BSW can use XL without problems. Everybody is shooting the legs of an BSW and if you lose your legs it doesn’t matter which engine you are running. So a BSW can easily run over 100.

[Novakaine]

Clan decks increased 55?
Then I demand equal parity IS decks should be 60 tons.
For all the obvious reasons.
PGI stop the money grubbing.

[Lily from animove]

Novakaine, on 23 January 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

Clan decks increased 55?
Then I demand equal parity IS decks should be 60 tons.
For all the obvious reasons.
PGI stop the money grubbing.

5 months later scouting is 95t vs 100t and steiner complaining why they never can deliver any intel to the dropship in time anymore. Buff mission time pls.

Edited by Lily from animove, 23 January 2018 - 07:58 AM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Ok, did some testing running Stormcrows as a 4 man team in scouting.

Scouting queues were pretty dead because its a Tuesday morning on EST and I'm playing with my aussie friends since I'm pretty much on the same schedule. By the time we started skirmishing we only really had skittle teams to face instead of the unit that was fighting us when we were brawling.

What we've noticed is that skittle teams are actually marginally more effective than focused brawl only teams that run only about 82kph. Mostly because the skittles have LRMs and LLs and ERML and RACs and AC10s and other long ranged stuff that can damage us past SRM range. Still the damage done is so little and so unfocused that we can ignore it either way and the enemies don't really twist much if at all while getting a beam to the head.


So pretty much I have no valid data on how effective a skirmishing deck is against coordinated opponents using Bushwackers, conclusion just shows its really easy to beat randoms when you have a plan and coordination. Like we rarely would take much damage since we'd setup out of enemy range and by the time we move in its just a 2v4 with both of their remaining people with red open CTs while our mechs are yellow armor.

Waiting for primetime hours to try again, for now we're getting sleep.

[Xavori]

Bud Crue, on 22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM, said:

LOL!

I guess the folks complaining that their Black Lanners can't be used in scouting were heard. Well played, folks.

Except you'd have thunk that someone at PGI would have realize they should have done this during the pre-release push for the Lanner.

Not that it matters. Bushwackers are tougher than either Crows or Lanners both of which are undergunned because of engine size.

Novakaine, on 23 January 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

Clan decks increased 55?
Then I demand equal parity IS decks should be 60 tons.
For all the obvious reasons.
PGI stop the money grubbing.

Which 60 ton mech do you want to bring to scouting over a Bushwacker?

It's kinda like which 55 ton mech does the Clan want to bring over a Huntsman?

[Bombast]

Xavori, on 23 January 2018 - 08:03 AM, said:

Which 60 ton mech do you want to bring to scouting over a Bushwacker?

IV-4, for one. DRG-5N as well, though I suspect that one may be a bit niche (Takes a lot of skill to really get performance out of that thing).

...And that's probably it.

[HGAK47]

Not that I speak from scouting experience, but in QP the stormcrow has always been one of my most fond Clan mechs. Its a hell of a lot of fun with Streaks or srms. Not strong but not too weak, packs a good punch and moves like a Centurion (Quite fast and agile for its size)

[Davegt27]

and what does the Storm crow's say

[Admiral-Dan]

Dakota1000, on 23 January 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

conclusion just shows its really easy to beat randoms when you have a plan and coordination.

That conclusion is as old as the hills.

[Rayden Wolf]

Xavori, on 23 January 2018 - 08:03 AM, said:

Except you'd have thunk that someone at PGI would have realize they should have done this during the pre-release push for the Lanner.

Not that it matters. Bushwackers are tougher than either Crows or Lanners both of which are undergunned because of engine size.



Which 60 ton mech do you want to bring to scouting over a Bushwacker?

It's kinda like which 55 ton mech does the Clan want to bring over a Huntsman?

Stormcrow undergunned? Thats the first time i hear that.