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#1 Tier5ForLife

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:21 AM

I've been trying to figure out a mix that will work and I'm having problems.

Here is my problem. Besides being color blind, I seem to have a horrible time seeing anything in the semi dark to dark areas.

Even on Canyon I cannot see my teammates or the enemy. I have to target and then I just aim for the middle of the square. But because I can't see them, I can't tell if they are behind cover or not.

In maps like the Mine, HPG etc, I cannot see anything in the "dark". I'm shooting or dying blind.

So I've been trying to adjust Gamma and Brightness but I can't seem to get to anything that works. I know that Gamma makes light things lighter and dark things darker. So I thought if I turned Gamma down and Brightness up I could come to something that worked but no real luck.

I've also tried to adjust brightness during the loading screens by going to settings which sort of works but I have to change it for every map and even the time of day on some maps. And it totally screws up night vision if it is needed.

I've bee wondering more and more if my old video card is a major part of the problem. I do know it is a problem, I often do not see terrain that I'm trying to shoot through until my shells hit the hidden rocks or whatever.

This PC is stuck at a GTX 550 ti which was a good card five year ago. I found out the very hard way that the motherboard will not take anything higher. I was so mad over it I left the GTX1070 card I had bought at the Computer repair shop. It took me 3 months to save for the card and the bigger, better power supply.

Anyway, I'm trying to let that go. I wish I knew someone with a 1070 card so I can see the difference But than I cannot use their eyes.

So, any tips are needed or you can simply tell me that everyone has this problem.

#2 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 03:14 PM

Have you tried any sort of Enchroma glasses ? What colors are you not able to see?

For those who are using an NVIDIA card you can adjust desktop brightness/contrast/gamma in the control panel.


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>Control panel, Appearance and Personalization, Nvidia control panel
>Display, adjust desktop color settings.
>option 2: Use Nvidia settings
>>Change brightness/contrast/gamma

You can even change the settings for RGB channels Indvidially. It works if you run the game in window mode(not sure about full screen).


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:15 PM

I have dreamed about trying a pair of those. But it is not going to happen. I am a bird watcher in that I have a lot of feeders and I like watching my birds. Most I can tell what they are but some I will never know.

I'm supposed to be Red-Green or something like that. I can't tell red from brown, blue from black, white from silver. One of the weirdest things is that I cannot tell the direction a enemy mech is pointed. Is he looking at me or facing away? I find out when it shoots me. (which really sucks)

I also play Madden NFL and I have a hard time telling the teams apart and the Refs from the players. There a couple of jerks who always play their team's old color schemes to really mess me up. Madden, like the NFL is now a passing game yet I run 35-40 times a game.

I found the settings but honestly, I do not know how to adjust them.

The thing I wonder is do others see the dark areas well?

The other night I was told to start trying to shoot components. Start at 200m and work my way out further. But past 400m I cannot see a target without zoom.

I'm Tier 3 forever....

Thanks again Tarl!

#4 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:28 PM

Thats right, I remember that the 1070 would not work with your system... So is the shop still holding the 1070 for you?? It would be like a shiny penny now..

Let me review the low end system that I was able to put a Nvidia 1050 small profile into a SFF (small form factor).

As for the dark areas, it depends on the map and if it has the rolling day cycles. Some I crank up the Gamma til the match is over with.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:16 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 31 January 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

For those who are using an NVIDIA card you can adjust desktop brightness/contrast/gamma in the control panel.


Contrast is the key if you are colorblind. Colorblind modes in good games increase the contrast and add patterns unlike MWO's colorblind settings. You'll have to a use a 3rd party application to control your contrast.

Many of the world champions alter their contrast if you watch their stream you can see the difference. Why you don't have a contrast slider? MWO developers are what we refer to as script kiddies, they don't know how the code actually works, they just copy paste things around till things work, or don't.

Edited by Wind of Horror, 31 January 2018 - 06:17 PM.


#6 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:18 PM

http://www.brucebnew...olor-blindness/


First, what OS are you using? Windows 10 itself now has in its Ease of Access a baseline for some assistance. Reported around Nov 2017.

There is also Nvidia Freestyle Filters now, reported just this month....GeForce Experience needs to be installed

https://www.theverge...lind-night-mode

https://www.gamecrat...ode-games/17830

Go to several of the training ground maps you have the most issues with. Loading up things on the Nvidia system I have.. On the WIndows 10 Ease of Access, nice to see the changes instantly.

https://youtu.be/9lD18yrxRm0

Just to edit, currently Mechwarrior Online is not listed as being supported, but something to look forward to.

A walkthrough to enable the "experimental" features for those games that support it.

https://youtu.be/ygma3wWHB5w

You could try the Greyscale, then the optional Night or Heat vision... The filters are basically an easier way to instantly adjust the filters but those are done at the driver level, whereas with the basic software will have you messing with several different sliders and such.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 31 January 2018 - 07:13 PM.


#7 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:23 PM

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The other night I was told to start trying to shoot components. Start at 200m and work my way out further. But past 400m I cannot see a target without zoom.

What monitor, brand/model and size is it? I switch between a 46 LCD TV (vizio) and 32in LG monitor Depends on what I am doing and where....

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 07:39 PM

Yea, one thought I had was simply getting a bigger monitor. Mine is a 24 inch. I try not to think about it much but I could have bought a nice one for the price I paid for the 1070 card. I'd have to get another pair of glasses without bifocals. I've look at 40 inch one and I need bigger glasses.

I'm due a new pair now. Past due really. Having have to retinal tear surgery allows me to get another pair though Medicaid. I should get "driving" glasses but I do not drive that much so I want to get another pair of computer glasses.

Almost two years ago I had cataract surgery and it was considered a "risky" one. It will always bug me but I was not able to afford the astigmatism lenses, so I had to get the "Far" lenses. I found it hard to understand and it sort of freaked me out but the closer something is, the harder it is for me to see it. For instance, I cannot come up to a mirror and look at my eye.

Until I got a 10X lighted magnifying glass, I could not see or read quirks, I had no idea what people were talking about, LOL.

Edited by LikeUntoBuddha, 31 January 2018 - 07:40 PM.


#9 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 04:30 AM

View PostLikeUntoBuddha, on 31 January 2018 - 07:39 PM, said:

Yea, one thought I had was simply getting a bigger monitor. Mine is a 24 inch. I try not to think about it much but I could have bought a nice one for the price I paid for the 1070 card. I'd have to get another pair of glasses without bifocals. I've look at 40 inch one and I need bigger glasses.

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When you said you have looked at 40in one and would need bigger glasses, were you as close to it as your current monitor? How close do you sit to the monitor? Or did you mean bigger glasses as in larger glasses (width/height)? Going larger would not necessarily mean sitting further away from it, simply having a larger footprint. 40in range would be about right without the need to turn one's head.

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 06:07 AM

By larger glasses I mean in size(width/height). I made the mistake of taking my wife with me and between her and the optician, I ended up with a pair of "cool" smaller frames and my bifocals take up half of them. Even with this 24 inch one I cannot see the whole screen.

It was 100% my fault, I allowed myself to pick something I knew was wrong. In fact, I had to wait and get these after my eye had fully healed from the retinal tear. After a quick check with the Surgeon, the other Doctor who checked me out told me to get the largest frames I could find, much like the ones she was wearing. We joked that I needed "70's glasses.

Needing 3 sets of glasses does suck but I will see better with larger ones without bifocals.

The rub is that I'm not good at this game so putting more money into it is just dumb considering that we are poor. But since we watch a lot on our PCs instead of the TV, and we watch the things we watch together on this Monitor, my wife is fine with getting a bigger monitor.

I have a 46 inch plasma which is great but it puts off so much heat we watch it only during the winter because it works as a heater lol.

#11 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 09:29 AM

I hear you on the cool glasses part... :) For an extra set of computer glasses there was no way I was going to pay the local store for another set as that set would not even be partially covered by insurance. I ended up purchasing a pair from two different online stores and I am very pleased with them. For that I paid, even with insurance at the local store I could have purchased 5 sets online. I may get my lenses from the local store but use my new frames if the next appt calls for it. I did learn how to measure the glasses, where the measurements are on the glasses then double checked everything before making a purchase.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 12:04 PM

CONTRAST

I went and adjusted it from my video card and it could just be my imagination but it sure seems like I'm seeing better. In fact, in the first game, I was just semi looking around and I believe I saw enemy mechs before I'd normally see them and also the sides and backs and fronts.

And another odd bonus. I play in window mode and the bottom of my screen has always been cut off. So I could not see how to log out, reach settings or see the chats. And while playing the game I could not see who was speaking in chat. But now I can.

It is either better or I'm having another one of those LSD flashbacks....





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