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[SlowPoke79]

Seranov, on 07 February 2018 - 03:05 PM, said:

Incorrect. It's programmed exactly the way it's designed to work. You don't like it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't do the thing it is supposed to do.

All you have to do is twist and move into cover and the RAC boat is effectively a waste of tonnage.

Not actually sure what you mean it is supposed to do, because the blinding flash from a pulse laser would also blind your cockpit without filters. So why does the flash from the RAC blind you....are they hitting you in the cockpit....that means you should be dead shortly. Oh no they are just shooting somewhere in the CT.

Yes that RAC should basically should get 5 damages per shot, it should also be at least twice as heavy and large as it's single fire weapon. I mean following real world physics here. To be fair and all this is what would happen and that I would not have a problem with. I mean it would actually give purpose to assaults again. Just saying, you know lites and MG, assault and RAC. Would be fun if the lites actually had to be careful around the assaults. Oh wait those hit box registration would screw all that up again.

[JP Josh]

ok nerf the rac then i want the old flammers back

[Seranov]

SlowPoke79, on 26 February 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

Not actually sure what you mean it is supposed to do, because the blinding flash from a pulse laser would also blind your cockpit without filters. So why does the flash from the RAC blind you....are they hitting you in the cockpit....that means you should be dead shortly. Oh no they are just shooting somewhere in the CT.

Yes that RAC should basically should get 5 damages per shot, it should also be at least twice as heavy and large as it's single fire weapon. I mean following real world physics here. To be fair and all this is what would happen and that I would not have a problem with. I mean it would actually give purpose to assaults again. Just saying, you know lites and MG, assault and RAC. Would be fun if the lites actually had to be careful around the assaults. Oh wait those hit box registration would screw all that up again.

Any Ballistic weapon hitting near the cockpit will momentarily blind the pilot due to the explosion animation of the rounds hitting you. RACs are best at this due to sheer volume of fire. This is working as intended.

More than any of this, though, you just need to stop blaming your own lack of piloting skill (such as your clear intent to not twist some of the easiest-to-spread damage in the game) and practice the solutions you've been given.

[ramp4ge]

SlowPoke79, on 26 February 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

Not actually sure what you mean it is supposed to do, because the blinding flash from a pulse laser would also blind your cockpit without filters.

It does. It's just got a much faster decay.

[Vellron2005]

RACs are suppression weapons, just like LRMs.. don't stand in the open..

Yes, they are super annoying.. yet.. that's what they're meant to be..

[Athom83]

SlowPoke79, on 26 February 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

LOL....oh ammo type slection was not aware this existed in MWO?

Ultra and Rotary ACs could only use the base ammo type in BT, which is an HE type shell akin to modern day HESH/HEP (but far more advanced). AP, KP, and other ammo types did exists, but they were exclusively able to be used in standard AutoCannons or LB-AutoCannons. But no, ammo type selection does not currently exist in MWO, but all the weapons are currently using their BT base/standard ammo type.

Edited by Athom83, 27 February 2018 - 06:27 AM.

[Athom83]

SlowPoke79, on 26 February 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

Yes that RAC should basically should get 5 damages per shot, it should also be at least twice as heavy and large as it's single fire weapon. I mean following real world physics here. To be fair and all this is what would happen and that I would not have a problem with. I mean it would actually give purpose to assaults again. Just saying, you know lites and MG, assault and RAC. Would be fun if the lites actually had to be careful around the assaults. Oh wait those hit box registration would screw all that up again.

Yes and no. RAC/5s fired 5 damage shots at 6x the fire rate as standard ACs, while being the size and weight as we have it in game. That is how it is "supposed" to act like if we follow lore. And following real world physics, there isn't that much weight difference between a 30mm Bushmaster and a 30mm Gau-8, especially not a 2 ton difference like when comparing an AC/5 with a RAC/5. And assaults do have a purpose and light pilots do fear assault pilots that know what they're doing. AC/20 and LB-20s still have a use in the current meta as anti-light weapons, just blast them in the face with a concentrated 20 damage and you basically cripple their capabilities, yet people don't really use them that much on their assaults anymore.

[Cayp]

Cool looking flamers with actual fire was nerfed for the same reason.
I actually vote for either bringing em back, or nerfing RACs for the same blinding effect.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

im love 3x AC5 ...its like a SAW with good aim in center of reds

[Gradnuko]

I agree. It's like a permanent flashbang. It's ridiculous and needs to stop. I should die because I got outplayed, not because I couldn't even see the enemy to return fire.

Mole, on 05 February 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

If you take away the supression effect of RACs then they will be totally worthless. Rendering the recipient of your stream of bullets unable to return fire is the only thing that makes them worth having.

So you buff RACs when you remove it. You don't just leave them with an unintended pseudo-cheat because they're underpowered without it.

Nema Nabojiv, on 05 February 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

Besides they dont even have a guy to change the colors for heavy lasers. Changing explosion effect is way more complicated task

I'm pretty good with Blender and I'll happily do it for free.

Edited by Plaid Ninja, 28 February 2018 - 04:48 AM.

[Athom83]

Plaid Ninja, on 28 February 2018 - 04:40 AM, said:

I agree. It's like a permanent flashbang. It's ridiculous and needs to stop. I should die because I got outplayed, not because I couldn't even see the enemy to return fire.

Except that is you being outplayed?

Plaid Ninja, on 28 February 2018 - 04:40 AM, said:

So you buff RACs when you remove it.

... wat?

Plaid Ninja, on 28 February 2018 - 04:40 AM, said:

You don't just leave them with an unintended pseudo-cheat because they're underpowered without it.

Lol wut?

[SlowPoke79]

I guess it's a game, just have to equip RAC on all my mechs. Oh better yet 8 x MG, LOL.

[Athom83]

SlowPoke79, on 02 March 2018 - 11:10 PM, said:

I guess it's a game, just have to equip RAC on all my mechs. Oh better yet 8 x MG, LOL.

Neither of those are particularly stronger than available alternatives...

[Humpday]

What else are you suppose to do with them? They play the role of a suppression weapon...annoying as they may be, thats the only decent use for them...orther than that...they are a bad weapon system.

Dual rac5 bushy does well since you just joust people and blind them....its pretty entertaining really but the heat and jamming....you know. Hard to kill people with the things.

I wouldn't mess with that weapons system, a misstep in a buff can easily shift it into OP territory due to its RoF.

Edited by Humpday, 03 March 2018 - 11:44 AM.