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[InvictusLee]

Spoiler

...and what makes matters worse is that PGI insists on punishing players for crashes by dropping PSR and match rewards.

Also, forumtags are white, against a white background and therefore broken.

Edited by November11th, 08 February 2018 - 05:02 PM.

[Trenchbird]

Actually... I'm pretty sure that Roughneck had a good shot at winning that even without the Disco. No offense.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

Yeah, against a LRMboat at that range, my money's on the brawl build. Still sucks, though. I've gotten robbed by crashes a few times, and it is not fun to finally rejoin only to find out that you got nothing for the game. If they're gonna have d/c penalties, then they need a better system so they can determine whether the player actually chose to leave the game or got dropped because bloody software coughed up a hairball.

[InvictusLee]

Catten Hart, on 08 February 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

Actually... I'm pretty sure that Roughneck had a good shot at winning that even without the Disco. No offense.

ohh no, that wasnt a 1v1, there were three of us rushing him lol.

but your right, he's tanky af.

WrathOfDeadguy, on 08 February 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

Yeah, against a LRMboat at that range, my money's on the brawl build. Still sucks, though. I've gotten robbed by crashes a few times, and it is not fun to finally rejoin only to find out that you got nothing for the game. If they're gonna have d/c penalties, then they need a better system so they can determine whether the player actually chose to leave the game or got dropped because bloody software coughed up a hairball.

ikr?!

[El Bandito]

November11th, on 08 February 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

Spoiler

...and what makes matters worse is that PGI insists on punishing players for crashes by dropping PSR and match rewards. Also, forumtags are white, against a white background and therefore broken.

Why should anyone care about losing one match worth of PSR? I'd care about the rewards more. Just report the error, and if it persists, run the repair tool.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 February 2018 - 06:38 PM.

[Ngamok]

Fix your computer and stop crashing.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

Ngamok, on 08 February 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

Fix your computer and stop crashing.

Yes, that is a perfectly viable solution in every single case, because MWO is programmed flawlessly and never, ever glitches out, crashes, or drops server because of factors beyond the user's control.

[Trenchbird]

WrathOfDeadguy, on 08 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Yes, that is a perfectly viable solution in every single case, because MWO is programmed flawlessly and never, ever glitches out, crashes, or drops server because of factors beyond the user's control.

*Coughs in screen-hogging*

To be honest, that's the only problem I ever really get.

[Yosharian]

November11th, on 08 February 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

[spoiler]
...and what makes matters worse is that PGI insists on punishing players for crashes by dropping PSR and match rewards.

Also, forumtags are white, against a white background and therefore broken.

LRM Mad Cat MKII

there's a special place in hell for people like you

Jokes aside, I crash from time to time and I've managed to get back into the match every single time, so...

Edited by Yosharian, 08 February 2018 - 07:15 PM.

[InvictusLee]

El Bandito, on 08 February 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

Why should anyone care about losing one match worth of PSR? I'd care about the rewards more. Just report the error, and if it persists, run the repair tool.

Its annoying as **** man. It happens right when I'm engaging at close range and happens about three times in a 4-7 hour play session. Then the penalties are like salt in the wound. It isnt like I chose to crash. No, I want to steal as many kills as I possibly can.

Yosharian, on 08 February 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

there's a special place in hell for people like you

Jokes aside, I crash from time to time and I've managed to get back into the match every single time, so...

The Devil says hello.

That aside, there isnt much you can do with the MKII-4 besides LRM boating and ATM boating or LL Drilling (and the GH on LL's is stupid), and my LRM boat is WAY WAY more effective in every way except brawling despite ATMS having longer ranges.

and booting back up, and spooling back into the match means I'll jump in right before the last guy gets killed, wasting 5 minutes of my time because PGI doesnt know how to pay for faster servers.So once I crash, I can reasonably assume that getting back into the same match is pointless.

[Yosharian]

November11th, on 08 February 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

Its annoying as **** man. It happens right when I'm engaging at close range and happens about three times in a 4-7 hour play session. Then the penalties are like salt in the wound. It isnt like I chose to crash. No, I want to steal as many kills as I possibly can.


The Devil says hello.

That aside, there isnt much you can do with the MKII-4 besides LRM boating and ATM boating or LL Drilling (and the GH on LL's is stupid), and my LRM boat is WAY WAY more effective in every way except brawling despite ATMS having longer ranges.

and booting back up, and spooling back into the match means I'll jump in right before the last guy gets killed, wasting 5 minutes of my time because PGI doesnt know how to pay for faster servers.So once I crash, I can reasonably assume that getting back into the same match is pointless.

> isnt much you can do with the MKII-4

true

> means I'll jump in right before the last guy gets killed

do you have an SSD?

that said my crashes are always at the start, i guess it's a different story if you crash in the middle of a match

[InvictusLee]

Yosharian, on 08 February 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

> isnt much you can do with the MKII-4

true

> means I'll jump in right before the last guy gets killed

do you have an SSD?

that said my crashes are always at the start, i guess it's a different story if you crash in the middle of a match

Nah. I got a disk drive.

[D V Devnull]

Hi there, ... Have you thought to dust off the Graphics Card in your computer recently? If not, heat may be leading to the crashes that you're seeing. I had similar to this problem with a previous Graphics Card in my system, but after I dusted it off, the crashes stopped.

~D. V. "With MWO, you must NOT let the Graphics Card get dusty..." Devnull

[Khobai]

I had that problem on my old computer. MWO would randomly crash because the video card was dusty and I would have to pull it out and clean it off and reseat it back in the motherboard.

MWO also seems to crash a lot whenever you alt-tab during loading screens.

[jjm1]

I overclocked my RAM to stop crashes on my new Ryzen build.

Compuwters man...

[Mystere]

WrathOfDeadguy, on 08 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Yes, that is a perfectly viable solution in every single case, because MWO is programmed flawlessly and never, ever glitches out, crashes, or drops server because of factors beyond the user's control.

Well, I just really cannot recall getting any more than 5 MWO crashes after thousands of drops. So I doubt it is solely MWO that is the problem. In other words, it could be one or more other things and it just so happens that MWO exposes them.

Heck. Just here in the office, people were complaining about one of our web-based systems suddenly not functioning. After a quick investigation, it was determined that Firefox V57 was the cause/trigger.

Edited by Mystere, 09 February 2018 - 11:21 AM.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

November11th, on 08 February 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

That aside, there isnt much you can do with the MKII-4 besides LRM boating and ATM boating or LL Drilling (and the GH on LL's is stupid), and my LRM boat is WAY WAY more effective in every way except brawling despite ATMS having longer ranges.

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While it’s true that there isn’t much else (that’s even ok-ish) to do with that mech ATM builds will outperform in any engagement that is 500 meters on down....which is most of the time. It’s not just the damage (which is obviously part of it)...it’s the velocity as well. Unless it’s polar it’s alot easier to to dodge lrms than ATMs (finding cover, breaking lock). The ranges where both will likely hit are shorter and at those ranges (especially mid range) ATMs are more likely to find their way home. The wild card is going to be massed ams. Both will be hit hard by it, but ATMs worse...if it’s just 1 ams the assault atm boat still probably outperforms though . If you are faced with a choice between a mostly bad weapon (lrms) and a sometimes bad and sometimes good weapon. Always choose the second option

[nitra]

What i have found is the game is quiet crash prone on newer hardware . my old 2600k ran this game solid no crashes at all.

built a 6850 with an amd r390 and that system did not run mwo all that well less performance than the 2600 with nvidia and it was also more crash prone.

this year i have a threadripper and nvidia and mwo crashes constantly.

both machines listed above are stable and pass the burn in tests just fine .

what i have found on this system is if i limit MWo to 4 cores the game seem stable again .

based on the other games and my experience the problem lies at MWO feet .

its always more delightful to blame the user for everything because you can get your troll on and demean others.

but in reality we live in a day and age of broken software and developers who dont really give a damn as long as it works on their poor excuse for a test lab .

if the limiting of MWO to 4 cores dont work .

then of course verify your hardware and drivers readjust overclocks. but dont go nuts over it cause MWO is not a poster child for stable software and should not be used as a benchmark for stability.

[InvictusLee]

Marquis De Lafayette, on 09 February 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

While it’s true that there isn’t much else (that’s even ok-ish) to do with that mech ATM builds will outperform in any engagement that is 500 meters on down....which is most of the time. It’s not just the damage (which is obviously part of it)...it’s the velocity as well. Unless it’s polar it’s alot easier to to dodge lrms than ATMs (finding cover, breaking lock). The ranges where both will likely hit are shorter and at those ranges (especially mid range) ATMs are more likely to find their way home. The wild card is going to be massed ams. Both will be hit hard by it, but ATMs worse...if it’s just 1 ams the assault atm boat still probably outperforms though . If you are faced with a choice between a mostly bad weapon (lrms) and a sometimes bad and sometimes good weapon. Always choose the second option

You say this, but unless im running atms on a mech that can atleadt hit 81kph and or have jump jets, then LRMs are a better option. I actually enjoy ATMs quite a bit. Took some getting used too, but my huntsman and lacerator run ATM24's and they are a ball to play with. Especially the crow which i have a long tradition of using for hunting lights; I used to run LRMs in concert with Streaks and that was effective because i was deadly at any range. Now with ATMs, i do more dmg on the same mech with less effort and i can carry 4 ERSML as back up. Its fun. Once i get home, im gonna run my crow some more lol.

[Bilbo999]

I'll play this game for 4-5 hours tonight without a crash. I'll get my first crash ~2am or so and will then get them every 3rd or fourth game. They always come on map load or shortly thereafter. Alt-tabbing might be an issue at that point because of noticeably longer wait times, but I'll have been alt-tabbing all night long so there doesn't seem to be a connection.

Edited by Bilbo999, 09 February 2018 - 05:05 PM.