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#21 Brain Cancer

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:51 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 22 February 2018 - 12:59 PM, said:



You could, but you have to strip off a ton (well just over a ton) of armour to do it...

Wow that really puts the Lanner in perspective, it can run a build that can be replicated on a 20t mech...


Ironically, if you fit it with an engine that's roughly BL speed, you get this. Given, it runs slightly hotter.

https://mwo.smurfy-n...9dea3750468c7e1

But the BL is a light in a fat suit with it's extra chunky engine.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:34 PM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 22 February 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:


Ironically, if you fit it with an engine that's roughly BL speed, you get this. Given, it runs slightly hotter.

https://mwo.smurfy-n...9dea3750468c7e1

But the BL is a light in a fat suit with it's extra chunky engine.


God no. Did you not read my post? Hard to miss and was right in the midst of all that.
It's much more feasible with the xl170. Not only does it have an additional internal, but it goes just under the possible top speed - 137.3, that's just 7.7 slower than the 180.

Going 111 in a piranha is a friggin death wish.

Edited by JackalBeast, 22 February 2018 - 08:36 PM.


#23 FupDup

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:37 PM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 22 February 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:


Let me fix that for you.

Really Bad Piranha Build

#24 topgun505

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:44 PM

If you are doing MRBC (where you often are restricted on taking duplicate chassis) the BL can be used as a poor-man's SCR (thus allowing you to duplicate another chassis in your drop). Yeah it may not do as good of a job as the SCR but it can do the same roles in a pinch.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:47 PM

View PostFupDup, on 22 February 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Let me fix that for you.

Really Bad Piranha Build


Pretty much, except I use the 3, as it has better quirks.
Got nothing on this tho
Even worse


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:51 PM

View Posttopgun505, on 22 February 2018 - 08:44 PM, said:

If you are doing MRBC (where you often are restricted on taking duplicate chassis) the BL can be used as a poor-man's SCR (thus allowing you to duplicate another chassis in your drop). Yeah it may not do as good of a job as the SCR but it can do the same roles in a pinch.


Nah. The BLK is kind of a token mech. While fun in some regards it just fall flat in others. I get what you're saying, just don't see it as being a desirable alternative esp next to te stormcrow.

#27 jjm1

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:57 PM

"But it had the firepower of an Adder." ..etc

Correct, and Adders have notoriously good firepower at the expense of speed. Now add more armor and make it faster and more maneuverable. Then give it a 10% range quirk that instantly makes it the sniper mech.

Its faster than a Shadow Cat so not as inept against pack lights, you lose pop-tart-enabled™, but that's an acceptable trade for speed. It can run 2 LPL with extra range and ECM, so many boring 1k games right there.

Also other little bonuses like you cant lose your ECM before losing your head.
Its ER-PPCs beat the Shadow Cats ER-PPC on length. ergo superior mech specimen.
Weapons mounted closer to cockpit, or literally to your cockpit in the case of the Hero.
I also think it looks good. Even the default pattern looks nicer than usual.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 09:32 PM

View PostJackalBeast, on 22 February 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

God no. Did you not read my post? Hard to miss and was right in the midst of all that.
It's much more feasible with the xl170. Not only does it have an additional internal, but it goes just under the possible top speed - 137.3, that's just 7.7 slower than the 180.

Going 111 in a piranha is a friggin death wish.


That was the joke, it's supposed to be a terrible build. As it is, speed is the only thing that saves a PIR from instant death most of the time.

View PostJackalBeast, on 22 February 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

Pretty much, except I use the 3, as it has better quirks.
Got nothing on this tho
Even worse


We have to go derper.

https://mwo.smurfy-n...a8f4fb7f9a676e5

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 09:34 PM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 22 February 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:


That was the joke, it's supposed to be a terrible build. As it is, speed is the only thing that saves a PIR from instant death most of the time.



We have to go derper.

https://mwo.smurfy-n...a8f4fb7f9a676e5


Now we're talkin'

#30 Jackal Noble

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 09:39 PM

View Postjjm1, on 22 February 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

"But it had the firepower of an Adder." ..etc

Correct, and Adders have notoriously good firepower at the expense of speed. Now add more armor and make it faster and more maneuverable. Then give it a 10% range quirk that instantly makes it the sniper mech.

Its faster than a Shadow Cat so not as inept against pack lights, you lose pop-tart-enabled™, but that's an acceptable trade for speed. It can run 2 LPL with extra range and ECM, so many boring 1k games right there.

Also other little bonuses like you cant lose your ECM before losing your head.
Its ER-PPCs beat the Shadow Cats ER-PPC on length. ergo superior mech specimen.
Weapons mounted closer to cockpit, or literally to your cockpit in the case of the Hero.
I also think it looks good. Even the default pattern looks nicer than usual.


I'm glad you're enjoying it. I saw you posted a 1K game, that's impressive.
The ppc, var is nice but works best sans the ecm in lieu of another heatsink, esp if running two.
The adder can run Gauss and 2 medium lasers. The BLK cannot.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 10:26 PM

View PostJackalBeast, on 22 February 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

The adder can run Gauss and 2 medium lasers. The BLK cannot.

Wrong. The Lanner can run a gauss, 2 tons of ammo and 2 ermed as good as a kitfox can.

#32 WrathOfDeadguy

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:20 AM

View PostDark Wooki33 IIC, on 22 February 2018 - 10:26 PM, said:

Wrong. The Lanner can run a gauss, 2 tons of ammo and 2 ermed as good as a kitfox can.


Which is to say, not very well at all- because you have to armor strip either 'Mech like you've taken a deli slicer to its face and a hedge trimmer to its gonads to get that combined 16 tons of weapons and ammo in them.

An Adder or a Cougar, on the other hand, can take the Goose, ammo, lasers, and then some.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:16 AM

Only Blanner i found good was the hero with 5xersl and 1xac2 with crap load of ammo.

The rest are garbage.. Even the hero is blah

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:28 AM

View PostWrathOfDeadguy, on 23 February 2018 - 12:20 AM, said:


Which is to say, not very well at all- because you have to armor strip either 'Mech like you've taken a deli slicer to its face and a hedge trimmer to its gonads to get that combined 16 tons of weapons and ammo in them.

An Adder or a Cougar, on the other hand, can take the Goose, ammo, lasers, and then some.


Thank you. Thought I was the only semi sensible one guy around here!

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:09 AM

I only have the standard pack....and so I'm stuck to non-ballistic builds (first time I'm rather mad at PGI for the reinforcement choices, it's fine on other mechs). I'm running ATMs+laser (2xATM6+6micro) with some success and quite some fun.

Edited by Exard3k, 23 February 2018 - 02:15 AM.


#36 Dark Wooki33 IIC

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 02:13 AM

Some anectodal evidence about the battle prowess of bellonarius with gauss and 2 ermed ... Posted Image

#37 Lupis Volk

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 03:24 AM

View PostEscef, on 22 February 2018 - 02:49 PM, said:

It's a decent mech, high-end light firepower and speed married to the durability of a high-end medium. It's not likely to set the competitive scene or CW ablaze, but it will definitely be a decent, funzies ride in solo-QP.

Isn't that the thing though? We should get these mechs for "funzies" not for some soul sucking meta escapade?

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 06:19 AM

View PostDark Wooki33 IIC, on 27 February 2018 - 02:13 AM, said:

Some anectodal evidence about the battle prowess of bellonarius with gauss and 2 ermed ... Posted Image


Fair enough, nicely done.

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:20 AM

View PostDark Wooki33 IIC, on 27 February 2018 - 02:13 AM, said:

Some anectodal evidence about the battle prowess of bellonarius with gauss and 2 ermed ... Posted Image


On second thought. There is no friggin way you put a gauss and 2 er med on the BLK and had ammo enough ammo/armor.
Unless you are truly that much of a masochist that is...

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#40 Dark Wooki33 IIC

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:36 AM

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