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[CFC Conky]

Please stop trying to brawl, I've killed a good number of you trying to fight at close range. You are a fast, sneaky mech, use your speed and ecm to make my life miserable by shooting and scooting, preferably in my back.

Stay fast and sneaky my friend.

Signed,
<Insert your favorite non-BKL mech here>

Edited by CFC Conky, 23 February 2018 - 11:06 PM.

[El Bandito]

BKL pilots seem to think MGs on that mech makes it a good brawler or something. Pfft.

[FupDup]

Well, people are trying to use short-range guns on it since it doesn't have the pod space to mount effective long-range weaponry (either too few guns, not enough heatsinks to sustain them, or both). And, you know, it's fast. All that extra speed is kinda useless if you're just going to hump hills all day.

[El Bandito]

FupDup, on 23 February 2018 - 11:19 PM, said:

Well, people are trying to use short-range guns on it since it doesn't have the pod space to mount effective long-range weaponry (either too few guns, not enough heatsinks to sustain them, or both). And, you know, it's fast. All that extra speed is kinda useless if you're just going to hump hills all day.

The thing is, Blanner is big enough that people can reliably hit them harder than they can ever dish back. At least Crows or Wackers can pack a wallop. It is a no win proposition, when trying to brawl with a Blanner. But I do not mind, as I am having fun farming them for the duration of the leaderboard event.

I think if people do not wish to use long range on the Blanner, at least try to skirmish with it, rather than getting up to people's faces with MGs.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 February 2018 - 11:24 PM.

[FupDup]

El Bandito, on 23 February 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

The thing is, Blanner is big enough that people can reliably hit them harder than they can ever dish back. At least Crows or Wackers can pack a wallop. It is a no win proposition, when trying to brawl with a Blanner. But I do not mind, as I am having fun farming them for the duration of the leaderboard event.

Reliably hitting them also applies at range, so it's kinda no win regardless of where they try to engage.

[El Bandito]

FupDup, on 23 February 2018 - 11:24 PM, said:

Reliably hitting them also applies at range, so it's kinda no win regardless of where they try to engage.

At range it is far trickier, thanks to high mounted RA of the Blanner-E, and the range quirk it has. Besides, it has good accel/decel to hit and fade from range. Even then, that niche is mostly useful on open ground. The mech is just limited.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 February 2018 - 11:26 PM.

[CFC Conky]

Just curious, would a 2 c-erLL, 2 c-erML build be particularly heinous? I know the thing is bigger than a light mech, but with its speed and ecm could it not be a decent harasser? I also know many other mechs can do this just as well or better, but let's face it, some players own BKLs, might as well try and make them work.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 23 February 2018 - 11:37 PM.

[Jackal Noble]

CFC Conky, on 23 February 2018 - 11:35 PM, said:

Just curious, would a 2 c-erLL, 2 c-erML build be particularly heinous? I know the thing is bigger than a light mech, but with its speed and ecm could it not be a decent harasser? I also know many other mechs can do this just as well or better, but let's face it, some players own BKLs, might as well try and make them work.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Problem with that build is lack of synergy. You'd be better off just throwing on 2 LPLs and calling it a day.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

I had okay results with short range builds... just have to remember not to stick around. Pop out, fire, run away. Play it like a SRM/laser Shcat, minus the jets.

This worked.

This also worked.

Think striker, not brawler.

MGs are facetime, and facetime is bad. Don't Lanner with MGs if you can help it, or else save them for the end when everything's open and crits are easy. Also don't do what I did in one game and dash in to try to bully an assault 'Mech face to face. That is a wrong thing to do. It will end badly for you, and you will be laughed at by your friends.

[Dogstar]

Yep it's a poor mech indeed, at least it proves that even clan tech, badly applied, can make for a crappy mech.

Edited by Dogstar, 24 February 2018 - 12:01 AM.

[Exard3k]

I'm running ATMs and ERML combo most of the time...works rather good as harassing. You can maintain your distance rather good with MASC bursts and even the standard 120kph isn't slow. Allows for outer rotation on most maps. Whooping 133° yaw angle allows for almost backward firing...nice to have with ATMs kiting light mechs that want your ***.

I love it....already mastered one variant. I was excited about the Black Lanner, but I thought it to be worse. The fastest mech I currently enjoy playing with. Had two 1k+ games already and almost got Ace of Spades in one match. But there were also some really bad performances because of bad piloting....fast mechs can get into very....uncomfortable....situations very quickly too, y'know?

Can't wait to get my hands on the reinforcement omnipods to try some ballistics.

Edited by Exard3k, 24 February 2018 - 12:16 AM.

[Kubernetes]

It's pretty nuts how BLanner pilots seem to love staring down my dual Hgauss assaults. I feel bad sometimes.

[Exard3k]

Kubernetes, on 24 February 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

It's pretty nuts how BLanner pilots seem to love staring down my dual Hgauss assaults. I feel bad sometimes.

Actually the Black Lanner is the only mech >120kph that doesn't give a **** about a hit with heavy gauss. BKL basically has MDD HP-Pool. Doesn't mean you have to stare down said Assault though

Edited by Exard3k, 24 February 2018 - 12:25 AM.

[El Bandito]

Exard3k, on 24 February 2018 - 12:22 AM, said:

Actually the Black Lanner is the only mech >120kph that doesn't give a **** about a hit with heavy gauss. BKL basically has MDD HP-Pool. Doesn't mean you have to stare down said Assault though

Except even Mad Dog gives a **** about getting hit by dual HGR.

Exard3k, on 24 February 2018 - 12:10 AM, said:

Can't wait to get my hands on the reinforcement omnipods to try some ballistics.

It has only 12 tons available so good luck. I hope by ballistics you didn't mean MGs.

Edited by El Bandito, 24 February 2018 - 12:32 AM.

[chucklesMuch]

I love/hate how damage friendly their arms are. Love; as super easy to disarm and remove most of their weapons. Hate cos generally want ST's for cBills...

[Exard3k]

El Bandito, on 24 February 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

Except even Mad Dog gives a **** about getting hit by dual HGR.

It has only 12 tons available so good luck. I hope by ballistics you didn't mean MGs.

Yeah...but your mad dog can't run away as fast, can't dodge with MASC and doesn't have ECM to conceal target info. Important difference in terms of survivabiliity.

I'm refering to MGs, yes...no pod space for ACs at all. With MGs you get at least a degree of build variety that allows for close range builds other than micro pulse or srms

[Kubernetes]

Exard3k, on 24 February 2018 - 12:22 AM, said:

Actually the Black Lanner is the only mech &gt;120kph that doesn't give a **** about a hit with heavy gauss.

You should tell that to the pilots I've killed.

Regardless, the BLanner doesn't carry enough firepower to justify staring down anything bigger than a light.

[Battlemaster56]

I agree that brawling not it's role, but more of a striker/flanker is it's main focus. Problem is (from my experience that is) once you committed to a move you'll be punish for it harshly if they even remotely react.

At this point I just hope I can get this mech to be more than a quick response truck, and more of a pack hunter.

[WhineyThePoo]

Lets be real here people, the lanner does not have a role, any build the lanner can run the cheetah can do better.

[Iain Sumner]

WhineyThePoo, on 24 February 2018 - 02:40 AM, said:

Lets be real here people,... any build the lanner can run the cheetah can do better.

No? more podspace, more range, way more hp, no JJ though. Totally different mech besides similar speeds.

WhineyThePoo, on 24 February 2018 - 02:40 AM, said:

the lanner does not have a role

Same role as any other mech on the roster.....role = "kill mechs"

Edited by Iain Sumner, 24 February 2018 - 03:00 AM.