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[Marquis De Lafayette]

Looks like Russ’s latest tweet (from yesterday I think) says now that “FP is likely to not be shut down on Solaris Launch”. So, while not a promise, it’s definitely a PR move in the right direction.

[McGoat]

[Bud Crue]

McGoat, on 07 March 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

...chickenwings

That is going to make me laugh forever.

[Vectoron]

Bud Crue, on 07 March 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

That is going to make me laugh forever.

Russ talking about Solaris during the interview.

TBH this entire debacle is sad as hell... I've tried to be patient and stay silent. I'm reaching my limit too.

Edited by Vectoron, 07 March 2018 - 09:50 AM.

[Pain G0D]

Wow a whole week or two without FP , the horror. Go read a book .

PGI are diverting employees to make sure Solaris is fully tested and glitch free for your personal enjoyment and you whiners want to riot about it .......naturally.

[-Mean Machine Angel-]

^^ Dumb post is dumb

[Grus]

Pain G0D, on 07 March 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Wow a whole week or two without FP , the horror. Go read a book .

PGI are diverting employees to make sure Solaris is fully tested and glitch free for your personal enjoyment and you whiners want to riot about it .......naturally.

2-4 weeks, so could be just a few weeks yes, or it could be a month... as for Quality control, shouldnt that be done BEFORE you release something?

[justcallme A S H]

Pain G0D, on 07 March 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

PGI are diverting employees to make sure Solaris is fully tested and glitch free for your personal enjoyment and you whiners want to riot about it .......naturally.

FP talk of shutdown after Solaris is launched.
Solaris should be tested and glitch free, before, being launched.

So what you are saying is totally... Well, if I say that I'll get another holiday.

Plus what resources right now are needed to keep FP running day to day? None. So that's another derp.

[r4zen]

Pain G0D, on 07 March 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

PGI are diverting employees to make sure Solaris is fully tested and glitch free for your personal enjoyment and you whiners want to riot about it .......naturally.

lol

Is the last book you read 'trolling 101'? Get on our level, boy

[MischiefSC]

I'm currently pounding out my 3rd (4th?) 100 hour week and am not sure when I will next be taken out and hosed off, err, rotated back to sane hours but I'm still irritated that this has happened.

However I'm not really surprised.

PGI Dev #1: "With Solaris coming out we need to do something special to get people engaged. What's something we can do?"

PGI Dev #2: "Hmm, well, we can go with the Ol' Faithful and **** FW over. I mean that's never not funny."

PGI Dev #3: "That's a good idea with a lot of success behind it, but aren't you worried about tapping that well dry? I mean we released it barely half baked, we decided not to introduce the bulk or features originally designed, we promised a bunch of stuff then literally had nobody even check in on it for a year. Then we actually NUKED them, like in matches, NUKED them for almost a year. That was great. We followed that up by removing factions, because now you can't even call it faction warfare with a straight face. Props on that one by the way I wasn't sure how we were *ever* going to shake those die-hard loyalists loose. What else can we do? Just send each and every person who logs I to FW a letter with a picture of us all flipping the bird with the caption "on behalf of PGI, **** You and we hope you die in a fire"? I'm not sure what's left we CAN do."

PGI Dev #2: "Even better. We shut it down. For several weeks, maybe even forevee. Just turn it off and forget about it for a while and say 'well you can go play Solaris now's as though that's not the exact opposite of the game experience that FW is. I'm pretty sure there's laws that prevent us driving to people's homes and pissing in their cereal but this is a close second."

PGI Dev #1: "That's genius. Absolutely genius. Then when we do eventually start it back up we can combine it with a nerf to ISERMLs down damage because they are over performing and buff Clan streaks range by 25%, saying they were always intended as a mid range weapon. That should put a bullet in FWs head once and for all. Now, suggestions on ensuring absolutely everyone hates Solaris?"

The above is satire. I realize that by and large the peeps at PGI are passionate about MWO and want it to be fun and would make FW awesome if they could but it's a little more involved than a couple database updates. I've just been at work forever and having to choke back my sarcastic impulses and this post just got both barrels.

But really. Don't ******* do it. It will turn out poorly.

[TheArisen]

Russ tweeted that FP will "probably" not get shut down for Solaris launch.

[justcallme A S H]

TheArisen, on 07 March 2018 - 06:55 PM, said:

Russ tweeted that FP will "probably" not get shut down for Solaris launch.

Yeah that was a couple days ago.

I think enough people went crazy over Twitter that it's been reviewed, thankfully.

[Willard Phule]

TheArisen, on 07 March 2018 - 06:55 PM, said:

Russ tweeted that FP will "probably" not get shut down for Solaris launch.

And if you believe what he says, you get exactly what you deserve.

Would you like to buy a mechpack?

[DarkFhoenix]

r4zen, on 07 March 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

lol

Is the last book you read 'trolling 101'? Get on our level, boy

Your level ? You mean moaning and whining and crying about anything and everything .

No thanks bro .

[Yondu Udonta]

Pain G0D, on 07 March 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Wow a whole week or two without FP , the horror. Go read a book .

PGI are diverting employees to make sure Solaris is fully tested and glitch free for your personal enjoyment and you whiners want to riot about it .......naturally.

Get the **** out of here.

[radiv]

Pain G0D, on 07 March 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Wow a whole week or two without FP , the horror. Go read a book .

PGI are diverting employees to make sure Solaris

lololol you saying pgi has employees working on fp?

[Marius Evander]

WoW I actually read the whole thread, hope people come back and read through it, but I know most people just post and leave it behind.

Lady Alexandra Cousland, on 02 March 2018 - 08:02 PM, said:

Spoiler

Seems like I will take a vacation then.

Are you calling yourself a seal and lying down waiting to get clubbed ?

Lady Alexandra Cousland, on 03 March 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

You know maybe we need a round table with all the mayor clan, IS and Merc, FP units and help PGI along on how to make #FactionplayGreatAgain
Just to help our dear friends at PGI.

I lol'd , were still waiting for feedback from the one in November/December? last year where we had like 12 ? demands and russ said he would get back to us on top 3? still havent heard anything.

Really could do with that select where you redrop option.

xX PUG Xx, on 03 March 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

Spoiler

OK I've taken time to listen to the FP section on the stream, since I fell asleep during it, Then I took time to calm down, think over and formulate a response that wouldn't get me banned while thinking through the possible reasons for doing this:

I honestly can't think of any business reason beyond PGI do not want to continue spending revenue and resources on a separate set of servers for a mode that (admittedly) is under populated. Is the mode "dead", no but there is an even smaller variety of players participating in it than group or solo QP.

IF this was a prelude to some form of grand overhaul I could swallow the bitter pill, however even that would not warrant shutting the mode down for 2-4 weeks: the mode could continue to operate as it has and those that play it would continue to do so but with a few of us that have interest dabbling in Solaris during down times. Then when the time came the shiny new FP update would be rolled out to replace the dull and old version, still no reason to shut down the current version,

Therefore, the only reason I can see for turning off the FP servers is to try and pull as many players into Solaris as possible BUT and PGI this is addressing you directly here: you seem to have overlooked the fact that many if not all of the current, longstanding FP players are still playing because of the TEAM aspect. Something that is completely anti-thesis to the notion of Solaris, with the exception of the 2vs2 but is still a poor replacement for Company vs Company engagements.

Unfortunately this is the latest in a (long?) line of actions that have, whether by intent or omission, negatively affected groups/teams of players. These are players that PGI should be catering to as we are the ones that play your product over the long term, that have and will continue to support you financially. So shutting down a team/group focused area of the game, in favour of a solo/duo centred mode, which doesn't even have a functioning "stable" system that I have seen or heard of to encourage players to socialise and "group-up" and compete together.

All-in-all a very short-sighted and poorly thought out progression of the IP, that could and should have been a stepping stone in the development of the player base. I HOPE that PGI will think this through and see the flaws in this logic, then fully plan out a better way forward or I fear that it will sound a death knell for many groups of players and in turn the game itself.

Before I continue. I am a 12 man FP player , I love FP, I hate Group QP with its tonnage restrictions and tolerate solo QP for events/leveling mechs.

A better reasoning Russ could have used for the shutdown would have been 'were worried servers wont cope with the sudden influx of young OW / CoD / BF / CS:GO kiddies that want to play 1v1 / 2v2 games. And dont want to risk putting them off with the seal clubbing, massive queue time wasteland that FP has become, and will be even worse for the 1st month Solaris is released (EXACTLY THE SAME HAPPENED WHEN SCOUTING MODE WAS ADDED, IT DRASTICALLY REDUCED 12 MAN FP NUMBERS FOR 2+ WEEKS).

I said Civil war was the last chance to get player numbers up enough to save FP/CW, maybe solaris shutting it down then "relaunching it" as Solo or Grouped (with bonus's for playing grouped) with all the new people that a "new" game on steam will draw in could save it. But my hope is running out and ya'll just going to shut this idea down with the usual "population isn't big enough""FP is for hard core groups coz its end game content" bull **** replies which I have invalidated multiple times. But you dont want to change you'd rather just die.

I, like many will be trying Solaris and not playing FP for 1st month, even if they leave FP up, its something new and most people will try something new for a month.

Edited by Cadoazreal, 08 March 2018 - 05:33 AM.

[McGoat]

Solaris will be up for 36 hours before the brown sea starts rolling in with "NERF LBX20!ONE!!!11AIEEEEE!"

There is no reason to shut CW/FP down, other than diverting the player base to boost numbers. If people choose to sit in queue, then let them choose to do so. *shrug*

[Khobai]

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Wow a whole week or two without FP , the horror. Go read a book .

or go on a cruise

[-Quiet-]

well at the end he did say good things...they going to change some Faction play to get better and some maybe fresh ideas ... im up for it !

faction play really should be better !!
for me its good news

Edited by Bios303, 08 March 2018 - 07:24 AM.