53 replies to this topic

[MoonUnitBeta]

Quit long time ago, I heard about IK getting put into the game, but I don't want to download the game to find out.

We have it yet?

[FupDup]

No.

[Y E O N N E]

And it's not going to come back in, either.

[Nightbird]

Ik is lostech, it'll take 1000 PGI years to recover

[Bombast]

IK has been struck down as impossible for the last time. No dice.

[Brain Cancer]

MoonUnitBeta, on 22 March 2018 - 07:09 PM, said:

Quit long time ago, I heard about IK getting put into the game, but I don't want to download the game to find out.

We have it yet?

Not until MWO changes engines entirely, IK is forever lostech given hit registration coding.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Brain Cancer, on 22 March 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

Not until MWO changes engines entirely, IK is forever lostech given hit registration coding.

its not the Engine ,other Companys have nothing Problems with AI or IK in very old Cryengine Versions ..its only the less Experience from PGI in all aspects to create a Game and become Folks with Experience with Cry or hold it in the Company
...Gamemodes...IK....Minimap...Hitreg and Server Stability...Animations ...FW...



Thats a Company thats ban the Flamers in Solaris and sell a Firestarter Solaris Hero with Flamers

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 22 March 2018 - 10:51 PM.

[YueFei]

What was the official reason given for IK being yanked from MWO?

I'm really curious. I did a university project 15+ years ago where I implemented IK, had a little Summoner you could run around in on randomly-generated terrain and the legs and ankles and feet would conform to it. It shouldn't be that difficult.

[El Bandito]

YueFei, on 22 March 2018 - 11:25 PM, said:

What was the official reason given for IK being yanked from MWO?

I'm really curious. I did a university project 15+ years ago where I implemented IK, had a little Summoner you could run around in on randomly-generated terrain and the legs and ankles and feet would conform to it. It shouldn't be that difficult.

When 8v8 was replaced by 12v12, we lost IK, among other quality of life stuff. ******* 12v12...

Edited by El Bandito, 22 March 2018 - 11:36 PM.

[Spheroid]

quitting is for the weak.

[PocketYoda]

What is IK... International Karate last i remember.

[Nema Nabojiv]

YueFei, on 22 March 2018 - 11:25 PM, said:

I'm really curious. I did a university project 15+ years ago where I implemented IK, had a little Summoner you could run around in on randomly-generated terrain and the legs and ankles and feet would conform to it. It shouldn't be that difficult.

Probably scaling. Its got to be synchronized for 24 clients, including that one guy from mongolia, all having various latency and various hardware potatoness and all having different mech models and animations.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Samial, on 23 March 2018 - 02:12 AM, said:

What is IK... International Karate last i remember.

sceletons thats works correct with the Terrain



here a Manual for IK and Cryengine 3

http://docs.cryengin...erse+Kinematics

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 23 March 2018 - 03:12 AM.

[FupDup]

YueFei, on 22 March 2018 - 11:25 PM, said:

What was the official reason given for IK being yanked from MWO?

I'm really curious. I did a university project 15+ years ago where I implemented IK, had a little Summoner you could run around in on randomly-generated terrain and the legs and ankles and feet would conform to it. It shouldn't be that difficult.

IIRC the reason was hit registration inconsistencies. IK were client-side while hitreg is server-side, which means that there could be situations where you see an opponent's leg in a certain position but in reality (server side) their leg isn't actually there. This would cause situations where you'd get hits when you're not supposed to or not get hits when you think you're supposed to.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

the Serversiding Calculation from Begin a Great Fault...ok , its reduced many Cheats ..other Side a Unstable Game

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 23 March 2018 - 03:15 AM.

[Bud Crue]

YueFei, on 22 March 2018 - 11:25 PM, said:

What was the official reason given for IK being yanked from MWO?

I'm really curious. I did a university project 15+ years ago where I implemented IK, had a little Summoner you could run around in on randomly-generated terrain and the legs and ankles and feet would conform to it. It shouldn't be that difficult.

See comments a few paragraphs in to the roadmap for fall of last year, as well as the production update referenced. In short: hit registration.
https://mwomercs.com...-october-beyond

[Juodas Varnas]

Basically PGI is unable to achieve what even mobile games can do nowadays.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Old MW4 Ranger, on 23 March 2018 - 03:15 AM, said:

the Serversiding Calculation from Begin a Great Fault...ok , its reduced many Cheats ..other Side a Unstable Game

I doubt the game would even be alive at this point with any kind of important stuff being client-side. That or we'd all have to use cheats to compete.

[Adridos]

Brain Cancer, on 22 March 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

Not until MWO changes engines entirely, IK is forever lostech given hit registration coding.

Hit registration and the code contained within the engine are two separate entities.
Even if they ported the game to a different engine, they would carry over the hit registration, prediction and what-not over.

Also, IK is by default included in CryEngine. They simply turned it off and now that they ignored it when writing the prediction engine, they're unable to add it back in.

[Magnus Santini]

IK is beautiful but people should not be looking at their feet. The enemy is over there!