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[bikerbass77]

I was playing Mechwarrior 4 Mercs earlier and I managed to do a Highlander Burial maneuver using a catapult against an Argus. It did absolutely no damage. If something like that happened in for real on anything humanoid (the same weight as your own being dropped on your head) you would expect some damage at least. I was expecting to see strained leg actuators or damage to the cockpit armour, but it was all still marked in green.

The question is, will this maneuver be worth the piloting skill in MWO? I know the devs have said there will be no hand to hand combat, but I could not find an entry on this.

Something to try for all you lucky people who are not forever pending.

[Nairdowell]

Judging by statements that charging and DFA are in the game (well, at least being planned), and watching the videos of mechs landing hard after jumping, the damage your mech will take to the legs may not be worth it... however, I cannot imagine the Devs adding these attacks without balancing the damage on both sides.....

[Adridos]

Well, death from above is confirmed and certainly possible.

To actually perform a highlander burial, you have to use a proper mech, though... the Highlander.

[bikerbass77]

Adridos, on 24 July 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

Well, death from above is confirmed and certainly possible.

To actually perform a highlander burial, you have to use a proper mech, though... the Highlander.

Unfortunately the largest mech with jump jets currently in the game happens to be a Catapult.

[Adridos]

Hans Davion, on 16 August 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Unfortunately the largest mech with jump jets currently in the game happens to be a Catapult.

There is a Highlander in MW4:Mercs.

[Regina Redshift]

Oh, man. I remember taking the wrong Raven into a Solaris match in MW4:Mercs. It had no weapons. I won via DFAs alone.

As for MWO, they said that melee/DFA/Ramming will be coming. DFA and Ramming will be first. I can't remember in which Q&A they said that, though.

[verybad]

Archwright, on 26 September 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Oh, man. I remember taking the wrong Raven into a Solaris match in MW4:Mercs. It had no weapons. I won via DFAs alone.

As for MWO, they said that melee/DFA/Ramming will be coming. DFA and Ramming will be first. I can't remember in which Q&A they said that, though.

It said that melee was "Under consideration, but only if they could do it right" I don't expect melee, and I think it could be rather irritating rather than a fun addition to play.

[RAM]

Hans Davion, on 16 August 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Unfortunately the largest mech with jump jets currently in the game happens to be a Catapult.

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[SonOfSamus]

I was curious about this so I just asked the players during a match. Someone said they saw someone pull it off, but it did like no damage. I didn't get any other details (we were in a match after all, hard to type and pilot).

[Booran]

In closed beta before they removed ramming DFAs were possible and occured, though insanely hard to pull off. Heard pilots brag about air stomping atlases' cockpits with JJ-jenners. Looking forward to smashing puny lights with 95 tons angry scotsmech!

[darkfall13]

In CB I was messing around with my Founder's Cat and was caught off guard by an Atlas (yeah I know...) I was pretty beat up and couldn't win the fight and I managed to JJ onto the Atlas's head and knocking the beast over. And promptly put as much distance between us as possible

[Microsoft_Office]

Well...
IT IS ABOUT TIME THERE WAS A FREAKIN' SCOTSMECH!!!!!!!!!!!!
(The FRR need more than the hunchback of notre dam...)

[Grey Rabbit]

I actually had an an unintentional DFA issue the other day. I had a "friendly" atlas fall off of the cliff by theta on the frozen city map and land on my hunchback. I was stuck in place and randomly saw the atlas step off of me and rubber band back on while I my armor and structural points flashed. I died from cockpit destruction from "collision damage". DFAs are sort of in there...

[Skunk Wolf]

According to the BT rulebook, Death from Above was jump jetting and slamming your legs into the upper torso of a mech, not so much dropping on it. It's already been in the game, surprisingly.

[verybad]

Endo slayer, on 15 April 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Well...
IT IS ABOUT TIME THERE WAS A FREAKIN' SCOTSMECH!!!!!!!!!!!!
(The FRR need more than the hunchback of notre dam...)

The FRR's culture isn't based on anything from the British Isles. They're space vikings bases on the Norwegian culture.

[8Ball-]

And of course you know there's a lot of Norse blood in the British Isles. Both literally and figuratively. Oh, and Notre Dam is in France. Now I'm totally confused too.

[Lefty Lucy]

The FRR, like most IS nations, has a wide variety of mechs available. Including variants of pretty much every mech in the game.

[OneEyed Jack]

SonOfSamus, on 04 January 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

I was curious about this so I just asked the players during a match. Someone said they saw someone pull it off, but it did like no damage. I didn't get any other details (we were in a match after all, hard to type and pilot).

It's kind of in-game, currently. There's no collision in the sense of knock-down, but ccollision damage is in-game. Unfortunately it seems to be somewhat sporadic. It always seems to damage your legs if you walk into someone or get walked into in the spawn, and sometimes it will do damage when walking into a mech or building. Other times you can ram a ligh into the legs of an assault at 150kph with no effect.

There was a NGNG stream where the streaming player was walking into an enemy Highlander, which then jumped and bumped it's legs against the upper part of the NGNG guy's mech. The torso armor flashed, so it apparently did some amount of damage, but it wasn't significant.

It's only ever a Highlander Burial when performed by a Highlander. The generic maneuver name is Death from Above, or DFA.

While it's very cool, and I dream of being able to crush a small mech into the ground with one, it won't be all that great, even when they put real collision back in. Doubled armor means that a single Highlander Burial won't do really significant damage, unlike in TT, and the small head hit boxes coupled with vastly increased head health means no crushing the cockpit in a single brilliant maneuver.

[Sephlock]

For the forseeable future, the "Highlander Burial" will consist of eight highlanders poptarting over a hill and burying you under a hail of gauss and ppc fire.

[OneEyed Jack]

Maybe. I love my HM, but I haven't found pop-tarting to be a great tactic with it. The Gauss/3xPPC will probably do it better, but damn that will run hot.