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[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I wants it

Only IS heavy capable of running dual heavy gauss with reasonable ammo (Warhammer only gets 2 even with arms stripped and 250 engine).

Alternative options with ECM include:
40 PPFLD HGauss + HPPC

35 PPFLD no charge with better range

A great breakfast snack free of charge

Breakfast for people who can't stand the heat

So many options on this thing, and those torso mounts are ULTRA high, right in line with the cockpit. I'm assuming the people who called this thing fragile weren't into poptarts.

[Seranov]

I mean, you can't really poptart in a mech with no Jumpjets. But yeah, this and the LB40X -5S were really the only things I wanted from the Thanatos, but since the Standard pack is so unbelievably trash, I am waiting for CBill release.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Seranov, on 12 April 2018 - 03:28 AM, said:

I mean, you can't really poptart in a mech with no Jumpjets. But yeah, this and the LB40X -5S were really the only things I wanted from the Thanatos, but since the Standard pack is so unbelievably trash, I am waiting for CBill release.

If PGI would put the good variants in the standard pack they might get some more sales, I'm waiting out the cbill release on this one too. Also a few of the builds I posted had jump jets. Looking forward to using this thing, some have said its kinda squishy, but those high cockpit mount dual torso ballistics AND ECM combo is really getting to me, and it even comes with jump jets too. Its got everything I want in a mech all at once.

[Vxheous]

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

Only IS heavy capable of running dual heavy gauss with reasonable ammo (Warhammer only gets 2 even with arms stripped and 250 engine).

I can fit 5 tons of heavy gauss ammo on a Warhammer, you just have to be creative with using single heatsink and a 225 engine:

Edited by Vxheous, 12 April 2018 - 04:17 AM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Vxheous, on 12 April 2018 - 04:16 AM, said:

I can fit 5 tons of heavy gauss ammo on a Warhammer, you just have to be creative with using single heatsink and a 225 engine:

Well, at least the Thanatos does it better.

[Vxheous]

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 04:20 AM, said:

Well, at least the Thanatos does it better.

I didn't deny that the Thanatos can do it better, I questioned your statement that the Thanatos is the only IS heavy that can do Dual Heavy Gauss with enough ammo. Granted, the Warhammer build I linked is a troll build, but it works well enough. 52 kph vs the 54 kph and 5 tons vs 6 tons to the Thanatos, but has a better profile. Both are going to move assault speed slow.

Edited by Vxheous, 12 April 2018 - 04:25 AM.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

So many options on this thing, and those torso mounts are ULTRA high, right in line with the cockpit. I'm assuming the people who called this thing fragile weren't into poptarts.

I think people used to call it fragile before the quirks. Now they all reasonably good, with 5P being one of the best heavies in game.

What I dont understand, is why having 50 kph heavy when you can have 50 kph anni with all the armor and lasers and even cases.

[Seranov]

Nema Nabojiv, on 12 April 2018 - 04:27 AM, said:

I think people used to call it fragile before the quirks. Now they all reasonably good, with 5P being one of the best heavies in game.

What I dont understand, is why having 50 kph heavy when you can have 50 kph anni with all the armor and lasers and even cases.

How is the 5P in any way good? MRM80? I can't see anything you could put on this garbage can to make it worth playing.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Seranov, on 12 April 2018 - 04:39 AM, said:

How is the 5P in any way good? MRM80? I can't see anything you could put on this garbage can to make it worth playing.

Of course. MRM80 and ECM and JJs and armor and high cockpit and high launcers. The only thing it lacks is speed and agility, which makes IV-Four the absolute best mrm carrier, while 5P being only the second best.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Nema Nabojiv, on 12 April 2018 - 04:27 AM, said:

I think people used to call it fragile before the quirks. Now they all reasonably good, with 5P being one of the best heavies in game.

What I dont understand, is why having 50 kph heavy when you can have 50 kph anni with all the armor and lasers and even cases.

Lower weight, higher mounts, smaller size, lower target priority, you can fit more than 2 into a FP deck.

[ForceUser]

I am going to buy so many 5Ss when it comes out for cbills. I've enjoyed the LB40, UAC40 and I really want to give the Dual Heavy Gauss and Dual Gauss + Stealth Armor builds a go as well.

[Eisenhorne]

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 04:03 AM, said:

If PGI would put the good variants in the standard pack they might get some more sales, I'm waiting out the cbill release on this one too. Also a few of the builds I posted had jump jets. Looking forward to using this thing, some have said its kinda squishy, but those high cockpit mount dual torso ballistics AND ECM combo is really getting to me, and it even comes with jump jets too. Its got everything I want in a mech all at once.

Yup. You'll be able to do some potentially cool builds with it. I'd have probably put out $15.00 for the standard pack if that one was in it. I also think a stealth armor sniper would be fun for quick play, but it requires the reinforcement pack thana, so that's right out.

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

Lower weight, higher mounts, smaller size, lower target priority, you can fit more than 2 into a FP deck.

3x TNS + ASN would be a pretty decently well rounded deck, if the TNS is actually viable. I know it has had torso armor buffs, haven't played with it yet to see if it's any good.

Edited by Eisenhorne, 12 April 2018 - 07:28 AM.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

you can fit more than 2 into a FP deck.

Ah, yes, makes sense.

[Gamuray]

Seranov, on 12 April 2018 - 04:39 AM, said:

How is the 5P in any way good? MRM80? I can't see anything you could put on this garbage can to make it worth playing.

A UAC10, SRM16 with ecm and a decent engine works pretty well. Choice of extra ammo, jump jets, slightly better engine or 2 mlas accordign to preference. It was a good brawler for me even before the ST buff, now it's quite nice.

[The Amazing Atomic Spaniel]

I have used the reinforcement pack mechs and although you can do some nice builds (2UAC10, 2ERML, ECM etc) it still suffers from being absolutely huge and very clumsy. I could never get mine to deliver in QP matches.

[El Bandito]

Gamuray, on 12 April 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

A UAC10, SRM16 with ecm and a decent engine works pretty well. Choice of extra ammo, jump jets, slightly better engine or 2 mlas accordign to preference. It was a good brawler for me even before the ST buff, now it's quite nice.

I think Victor-9S is much superior choice for such brawling, with only 5 tons of difference.

[Athom83]

Seranov, on 12 April 2018 - 03:28 AM, said:

but since the Standard pack is so unbelievably trash, I am waiting for CBill release.

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 12 April 2018 - 04:03 AM, said:

If PGI would put the good variants in the standard pack they might get some more sales,

But the Std pack variants were pretty good. One of mine is a MRM30 + 2 Ultra 5 brawler. Another is a MRM40 + RL15 + 4 ERML build. And the third is an odd LB10 + 3 SRM6 + 3 ERML build that is an excelent skirmisher.